ELSPA considers legal action against R4 cards

**agenericperson** · July 11th, 2008, 01:50

Originally Posted by Steely

An official homebrew channel thing would be awesome. But say Nintendo makes a flash card, people will buy it. Then, they're going to find out that other cheap cards exist that allow you to play ROMs, then they're going get those cards, therefore adding to the group.

I guess the best they can do is get it off some retailers.

It would be nice but it will never happen. Wii dev kits are very pricey. I find it funny Microsoft actually encourages homebrew (for a fee).

I don't mind anti-piracy. I just wish homebrew wouldn't always get clumped together with piracy. If Nintendo had cheaper dev kits, we wouldn't need to homebrew.

**masterchief929** · July 11th, 2008, 02:04

Originally Posted by da_head

i think some people take things waaaaaaaaaay to seriously. especially things said by random strangers on the internet -_-

i completely agree with u.

**crookedmouth** · July 11th, 2008, 03:48

Can you blame them(ELSPA)? I mean really, people buying them for there kids, new carts with 100% compatibility, being able to buy a dstt,acekard2, or r4 at amazon.com(for less then most games).
They talk about computer "savvy" hardcore gamers? WTF? An 8 year old can drag and drop and use google. I'm no angel, I've used a lot of arcade roms and old computer games since I found out about emulation,but must admit that the ease of acquiring and using these devices is undoubtedly damaging the mainstream handhelds like PSP and DS. The funny thing is, I'd buy the next GamePark handheld if the DS suddenly stopped being able to run homebrew,however hardware is not where the real money is made.
On a side note, I think wishing cancer and death on ELSPA members is kind of pathetic. I'm not overly serious either but basically 1 out of 3 people will get cancer in their life, so theres a good chance that they may. Perhaps something like "hope their forced to watch American "reality" TV til they die?", I don't know.

**rancor01** · July 11th, 2008, 05:41

mikebeaver: dude,you seriously need to either grow up, or get off the internet. Dont cry everytime someone says anything remotely offensive to you. Thats freedom man, the right to be offended.

Second - Ive lived in Tokyo for 3 years now, and I got my Supercard back in August 2006. Back then, I didnt see ANYONE on the train with a backup card... These days, its close to 40% of people I see with DSs have a card in their slot-1 with a micro SD in it, so I assume its an R4 or something... Seriously, here in Tokyo every store sells these cards, and it looks to me as if people are buying them by the truckload, and NOT using them for homebrew...

**Akoi Meexx** · July 11th, 2008, 15:05

Originally Posted by goity

but they don't actually illegally circumvent copyright protection, do they?

Actually, yes. Regardless of whether or not you're running homebrew, the hardware itself circumvents the ds's internal protection. Shane Monroe has an article on this somewhere on his site, I'll try to dig it up.

Edit: Found the article: Link

**stevo11185** · July 11th, 2008, 15:56

i seem to remember a judge in the UK saying that modchips werent illegal..... and this is what ds carts are. Its all BS reall and down to one man to decide whether its right or wrong. I dont see how they plan on suing a chinese company where there is no DMCA applicable (i think) also i dont think modchips are illegal there.

**stevo11185** · July 11th, 2008, 16:01

Originally Posted by goity

but they don't actually illegally circumvent copyright protection, do they?

only applies to US and UK i think

**Epic Pie** · July 11th, 2008, 23:08

Originally Posted by JKKDARK

Sadly more people use it for piracy than homebrew

My R4 only has homebrew, lol.

**Miles111** · July 13th, 2008, 18:30

The fact is, whilst they may claim that the R4 is making the video game creators lose money, only a small percentage of those who pirate would even BUY the original game. Plus, whilst I don't pirate games for my DS (I have an R4), most game developers are faceless corporations as such, immorality is driven out of the equation, if they weren't illegal I'd have pirated many a game for my DS by now. I end up completely confused when I see people like TeenDev who bash the R4 when it's just another flashcart that can be used for homebrew or anything. To be honest, it's just countering the free software revolution homebrew is helping.