Datel to launch 4GB hard drive for PSP (Update)

[shadowprophet]

When we go a buy a dvd player do they care what we play in them?
For that matter when we where kids and bought GI joes and transformers,
did they care if starscream was kicking cobra commanders ass ?
The point is. Some people look at the psp like its a toy,
Some people look at it like its a palm top computer,in either respect,
Dell hasnt brought out an update to stop emulation on there systems?
You know why? cause there interested in selling computers. What we do with them in our buisness.

Sony sends out a console and forces these updates on us. People may see it different. But you dont hear them snipping at the music industry. you can copy a music cd and play the hell out of it on the thing. and the movie industry. The thing just encurages for some to rip there favorite movies and music on to it. However at the very beginning of every movie. the FBI warning that comes up sais copy righted. for private use only. the move and sound track are copy right protected. however sony hasnt staved this market from us. And yet they enforce the system lock out. to make it closed source.
But in truth its no different then a pc a vcr or a dvd player.

Once we buy it its ours.
They dont have the right to tell us how we can use them.
Or perhaps they do. either way. They dont have the right to force updates on us. When we bought the system. We bought it to play psp games.
However we find a feature/ exploit we really like and sony doesnt. so to play newer games we must give up that exploit. This is sony welching on there system they sold us. If the psp 1.0/1.50 cant play a umd right out of the box without us being forced to update. then there advertising is FALSE! its supposed to play psp games right? But to play them we must give somthing up? This makes people scared and some people angry. Because if I had to update my dell to not play emulation before I could have internet access
this would be concidered an un-justifyed act of aggression aginst the end user? Would it not?
Im sure there are bleeding hearts, that will say, But emulations wrong.( Then what the hell are you even doing here. 75% of all homebrew is emulation or a direct port. and that,that is not emulation or a direct port Is unique and and rare).
Well I got news for ya, Even the goodie goodie bleeding hearts that eat this site up play emulation and i'll tell ya another secret.

Most of them dont own the orig carts. I got one hundred and fifty five roms, to that I own like maybe thirty of the orig carts to, Say what you will but your just like me and you know it.
sure im goeing out on a limb here, and no one else will step up to the plate.
But for somone to have all those orgi carts. and systems. then why would somone play a slower choppier version of somthing they already have in perfect form.
sure its neat. But this whole cracking down on us gamers. Is really just a reflection of the power the big guys have over the average person.
Its the digital equlivent of war. Power and greed dont go hand in hand.
Perhaps I am wrong . But even as wrong as I might be. You cant take ones right to choose between right and wrong away. Thats what im upset about.
The freedom to choose. Sony Nintendo Microsoft Sega. They have so much power They can make the choice for us. And we dont even get to choose.
The pc market does nothing to stop you from useing emulation other then the slap on the wrist. Thats wrong thats a no no. But sony in all its pomposity
and greed. takes This away from us. Somthing They really have no right to do once the systems already released and out on the market,in my opinion anyway.

Sure I rant and I rave and I look like an angry fool.
But nobody ever won a dissagreement/agrument/war but being submissive and hideing. there cracking down on us putting the pressure on us.
Dont we have the right to even take a stand?
Well i dont know what everyone else thinks. But I dont hide in the shadows. I dont run away. and im not submissive.
I play games I buy games, And I even play emulations of games I never owned and didnt buy. Because the truth of the matter is I have given my share of money to the industry. But no one video games fan can own it all.
emulation is the only answer in some cases.

You know, perhaps I am one of the bad guys, One of the people that reflect poorly upon an honest homebrew comunity.
or perhaps im just the only one of us. Thats just plane sick of these big companies telling us what we are and arnt able to do inside our own homes with our own consoles.

[urherenow]

Shadow...

Do you know of ANY game right now that absolutely won't run on a 1.5 now? I'm talking after using said exploit to launch the version changer and make your PSP think it's a 2.1. I don't really know which games check for it but I haven't had any problems yet.

I'm just as pissed about the whole thing as you are but Sony does have a valid reason to do this. Put yourself in the shoes of Sony's investors. What happened as soon as homebrew was up and running on the PSP? Exactly... UMD dumpers followed by UMD Launchers, followed by UMD Emulators. As much as they probably HATE emulation (a hatred that started with Bleem, I suppose), their sole reason for this is probably to prevent the pirating of the games.

[agnot]

Does anyone know how much it costs Sony to make a PSP? This is not a rhetorical question, I'm actually asking. Traditionally in the console world, the system itself is a loss leader, meaning they lose money on it with the idea that they'll make it up on software sales. If Sony is losing money on each PSP sold, and these PSP owners are just using it to run homebrew, then it doesn't take a genius to figure out this is bad for Sony.

In any case, the comparison to Dell doesn't hold water. Dell's business is to sell systems. They have no real interest in what you run on them. Sony, on the other hand, has a vested interest on the software you run on the PSP, since they make money on each game sold.

[PSP_Newbie]

Does anyone know how much it costs Sony to make a PSP? This is not a rhetorical question, I'm actually asking. Traditionally in the console world, the system itself is a loss leader, meaning they lose money on it with the idea that they'll make it up on software sales. If Sony is losing money on each PSP sold, and these PSP owners are just using it to run homebrew, then it doesn't take a genius to figure out this is bad for Sony.

In any case, the comparison to Dell doesn't hold water. Dell's business is to sell systems. They have no real interest in what you run on them. Sony, on the other hand, has a vested interest on the software you run on the PSP, since they make money on each game sold.

thats the way i always figured it

[Jdemon]

RE:This Product.
If I didn't already own 2 1GB memory cards and an extra battery it would be worth it. 4GB certainly holds more than enough games/movies/music/photos for the PSP for me. And lets try and keep some perspective here...this is a 3rd party accessory. Things like this will be poping up like cocaroaches.

RE:Sony
The biggest dissapoint is still the poor quality comercial games. Starting with Metal Gear Acid being a damn card game. I'm hoping games like Star Wars Battlefront 2 will start to pave the way for better games, but only time will tell. I'm afraid that the long term effect if this doesn't improve is that PSP's life is going to end up being very short. And the cost of new releases is unacceptable, $50 for Marvel Nemesis...when it's down to $30 I'll think about it.

[Darkshard]

RE:This Product.
RE:Sony
The biggest dissapoint is still the poor quality comercial games. Starting with Metal Gear Acid being a damn card game. I'm hoping games like Star Wars Battlefront 2 will start to pave the way for better games, but only time will tell. I'm afraid that the long term effect if this doesn't improve is that PSP's life is going to end up being very short. And the cost of new releases is unacceptable, $50 for Marvel Nemesis...when it's down to $30 I'll think about it.

I do see some potential in future releases, even some that are close by. :x X-men Legends 2, Untold Legends 2, Monster Hunter PSP... okay so I'm all about the RPGs, but still, there's fun to be had. I just hope some titles get as much downloadable content as Wipeout does, I swear I'm in love with their support for the game.

[F9zDark]

To Shadowprophet:

I do not think Sony's main issue with homebrew is emulation of old school games and old school consoles. But UMD loaders and pirated games are their main concern. At 50 dollars a piece for a game if Sony sells 2 million games world wide thats 100 million dollars they have made.

Now throw in the ease of ripping UMD games and now the ease of loading them. I don't think any of the games for the PSP hit even 1 gig, so one doesn't even need to buy a huge memory card to play them (thus also affecting Sony's profits...)

I do believe it should be our right to do what we want with our PSPs. Why should Sony tell us how to use our PSP? Ford, Chevy, Toyota, Mercedes, Volvo, etc don't tell us how to use our cars when we buy them. Sure modifications to the vehicle can void the warranty, but that is the case for many, if not all, consumer products.

I recall the PS2 Linux Kit, which seems to show that Sony has some sympathy for homebrewers. But I cannot say that their methods are completely unfound. The PSP has been out in the US for less than a year. And since the DS really is no competition, it doesn't really matter much, but I believe, that the PSP was meant to serve the dual role of not only bringing Sony to the handheld market but to also keep Sony 'in the running' until PS3 hits. Xbox 360 will have a huge headstart on PS3 and it seems only natural that Sony would take as long as it is on PS3 because it has another money maker in the market.

Piracy thwarts Sony's efforts highly. Emulation, I doubt has any affect on this, but outright piracy does. And I can see why Sony would want to stop it in its tracks.