Nintendo Reply To Bushings Piracy Concerns

[Shadowblind]

Alright let's all calm down here. Hey, let's all go out for a tequila, I'll buy :P

on topic: Honestly I can't see piracy messing up the Wii scene at all. My friend has a modded Wii and he can't play any good burnt games. Something about updating something.

Still, I do want the ability to burn DVDs with a huge library of games. Just have a binder, and when I want To play NEs, just take the DVD out. SNES, Genesis, N64...all at the flip of a disc


If there is any way to STOP piracy but allow CD use for storage means then by all means DO IT

[davidw89]

This Is A Win For People Who Have A Chipped Wii!!

[basilb]

I think Nintendo won't care that much. The people capable of making use of such an exploit are not the same millions of people Nintendo are making all their non-game profits from.

[tttyyyyyyyy]

Eh, Nintendo has an opportunity here. They can semi-legitimize homebrew like Apple did by opening up the WiiWare store to homebrew apps that have proven to be safe, and they can also do something good about space constraints, such as allowing people to store data in the cloud, or adding SDHC to the slot (if that is possible through code), or perhaps a bluetooth hard drive.

If they do this, they can patch every hole and control piracy without pissing off the homebrewers too much.

[El Capitaine]

The thought of an ISO loader on the Xbox360 or even PS3 interests me because it would allow loading of my games from hard drive improving load times (I assume) as well as keeping me from having to dig through my video cabinet to get a game to play.

Well, if you didn't see E3...the 360 one will come true in the fall as part of the 'New Xbox Experience' a.k.a. the Fall Dashboard Update.


The update will allow you to copy a game as an ISO into your Hard Drive, for the purpose of speeding load times.

Unlike the PS3 which has many mandatory installations, no 360 game will ever require this feature. It is completely optional, if you wish to use it for faster load times.

However, the unfortunate part is that the original disk is still required. The original disk must be put in to verify that you own the game, but beyond this it will not spin, as the game will run off the HDD.

However, this means that if your disc is scratched beyond playability http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_36...cratched_discs, then you could rent or borrow the game, copy it to your HDD, and then it's as good as new!

[NegFactor]

The problem with discussion of piracy is that the line of right/wrong was drawn in the sand ages ago...but by about a dozen different people at the same time. So here we are with some umpteen groups of moral and ethical stances concerning piracy, and everyone thinks they're right. It's like effing politics, here.

I pirate games. I can keep it that simple.

But what do I pirate?
Are they new games?
Older games?
Abandonware?
Do I own all of them?
Some of them?
Any of them?
What if they're games I can't get access to by reasonable standards?
Is it wrong to want to play a rom of a game that's been translated, as I cannot read the native language in which it was made?
What about media aside from games?
Is it wrong if that media is also inaccessible by reasonable standards?

Everyone has a different standpoint for what is okay and what is not okay. When these emulators were designed for these various systems (PC and console), some people took on these tasks with the idea to try and do something they thought would be fun, not necessarily with the intention of using it for pirating or otherwise. Others did it specifically for the pirating ability.

Even beyond this level, there are concerns about what piracy does in terms of damage to the console overall. Does it kill a console? If it is so easy to pirate games on a particular console, doesn't that encourage sales of said console so that people can pirate away on it?

Do gaming companies go under because not enough people have invested in their games? Is it justified if their games were of poor quality and people didn't shell out money just to figure this out because they used piracy to save some money? And if that is wrong, doesn't that make people who borrow games just as guilty, since they can avoid shelling out the necessary cash by just playing said game and giving it back to a friend?

Purchasing used games doesn't give money back to the companies who made the games, it simply lines the pockets of the middleman companies that sell the used games. Is pirating a used game okay then? If I was going to buy a used copy, I obviously had no intention of contributing to the software industry's growth in the first place.

People like to be defined by their beliefs and will attempt to defend them to the death whenever it befits them, especially if they can do so from behind a screen where only words can bring pain unto them.

I think DVD storage for roms is a great idea. I also think Bushing's decision to offer the code up to Nintendo was a great idea. I pirate games. I also object to the pirating of games based on certain standards I've set FOR MYSELF.

If you're here in the homebrew scene to leech, then just have patience. Somebody with enough ingenuity will come along with their Sega CD, Saturn, PSX, N64 code to brighten your day, along with some creative method for building your vast collection of burnt DVDs just for that purpose.

If you're here in the homebrew scene to learn or contribue, I applaud you. You're what helps keep the gears of this magnificent little piece of clockwork turning.

If you're here to state your entitlement, get in line. There are about a world's worth of people who feel the same standing in front of you. Me, I'll just keep on waiting.

[geise69]

Sir I applaud you!

[vicious1988]

*Has no long ass speech to post*

*Has already stated his position*

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[pedrovsk]

This Is A Win For People Who Have A Chipped Wii!!

A win for people who have a chipped Wii? I don't get it.

This is an anti-piracy win, definitely the opposite of the purpose of chipped Wiis. It has no benefit whatsoever to anyone who has a chipped Wii.

Those who play backups with a chipped Wii and made comments elsewhere on how they are happy for this because it's against piracy are a bunch of hypocrites.

You just want to keep a reason to justify the trouble and money spent on chipping.