Nintendo files suit against five DS hacking firms

[AntBUK]

I will admit to playing game backups on my R4. Games as yet unreleased in the UK and some of my favourites which I own.

However I spend far much more time using Homebrew Software, PuzzleManiak, LemmingsDS, DoomDS, DSOrganise, jEnesis, a SNES Emulator of which I can't remember the name, Lameboy, and a large amount of others. The homebrew stuff is better then the commerical stuff at times!

[megaxzeo]

I'm not a coder of any means, but I think that in order to make the homebrew work for these carts, the commercial roms need to work also. Think about it. The nintendo DS recgonizes *what* kind of file? a .nds. to have the convienence of booting up a homebrew off the r4 and other various carts is because its the same type of file that all of the commercial roms are. At least thats how i see it.

And even if these carts are made to play the commercial roms, so what. If I own the game, I should be able to back it up any way I want. And if I want to carry all of the games I own on *one* card, and these guys offer me the ability to do just that, and nintendo dosent, then it sounds to me like nintendo needs to quit complaining and make there own way of doing this.

If its what the people want ( and it obviously is ) then why not *sell* it to them?

[crookedmouth]

I'm not a coder of any means, but I think that in order to make the homebrew work for these carts, the commercial roms need to work also. Think about it. The nintendo DS recgonizes *what* kind of file? a .nds. to have the convienence of booting up a homebrew off the r4 and other various carts is because its the same type of file that all of the commercial roms are. At least thats how i see it.

And even if these carts are made to play the commercial roms, so what. If I own the game, I should be able to back it up any way I want. And if I want to carry all of the games I own on *one* card, and these guys offer me the ability to do just that, and nintendo dosent, then it sounds to me like nintendo needs to quit complaining and make there own way of doing this.

If its what the people want ( and it obviously is ) then why not *sell* it to them?

As was mentioned earlier, The Games n Music card though made by the much derided Datel has very good Homebrew compatibility(thanks to chism) with no ability to run pirated DS ROMs (someone said they got elf bowling or something to run, I guess). It's funny that this card is constantly being made fun of, when it is in fact a decent card and can only be used for homebrew.
Why would nintendo make a device that would allow people to use pirated roms?It would probably be impossible to make a device that would only play games you own. I don't believe it is legal to make back-ups of DS games(or any games really) anyway, don't quote me.

[spinal_cord]

I'm not a coder of any means, but I think that in order to make the homebrew work for these carts, the commercial roms need to work also. Think about it. The nintendo DS recgonizes *what* kind of file? a .nds. to have the convienence of booting up a homebrew off the r4 and other various carts is because its the same type of file that all of the commercial roms are. At least thats how i see it.

Nope, commercial games and homebrew are not loaded the same way. Homebrew is designed to run on these cards, as a result of this, they access the card in different ways. If a homebrew file needs to load something, it will have been designed to load it from a flash card, commercial games are designed to run from official nintendo cards, they access files differently and access the card differently. Commercial games need to be patched and tweaked and al sorts of stuff done to them before they will work on these cards. That is why whenever a new game with different features comes out, they dont work on any of the available cards, a new loader must be written to handle different save sizes etc.

Cards can remain safe by NOT having commercial compatability, it seems far easier that way, from a coding point of view, they wouldn't need to re-release menu's all of the time as there would be no possible updates.