Shops caught selling violent games and knives to children

[XDelusion]

Actually, while I lived in Arizona, I heard about a lot of kids killing kids.

None the less, I'd say Grand Theft Auto has a lot less server influence upon kids (aside of desensitization) than say...

...materialism worshipping Disney queen, Hannah Montana, or Paris Hilton, or say Kate Perry, who you DO see girls go out and imitate.

Anyhow, I think that eventually the whole novelty of shock and awe will wear thin and games will become as deep and original as novels can be and there will be a move away from the ultra violent and crass for the sake of being ultra violent and crass, though I could be wrong. Besides we are not talking about one generation, we're talking about a steady stream of minds that are young and work like a sponge, but also minds that or new to this world and easily influenced and led astray so, with that in mind...

...perhaps shock and awe is here to stay until the day of the apocalypse?

[Voorhees]

Hmm, well it's extremely easy to get get a hold of a knife, but i don't they should sell that young people knives anyway.

What's the young kids going to do with a knife? Use it for cooking? Don't think so.

Why are everyone saying that the games aren't dangerous at all?
And alot of people think that they should sell, for example, GTA IV to kids at age 8-13.

I really think that there should be an age restriction. If a person at age 8 sits at home playing GTA IV all the time (a boy at that age would probably play alot if the parents are lazy) then that person are going to take different actions in the world than a normal kid.
And that is because kids at age 8 hasn't fully developed their "brain", they will think and behave based on the events in their life.
This will affect younger kids more.

I've read studies done by experienced doctors and such. I've read alot overall about this subject. And what i'm saying is a fact. Of course, every individual is different and there are much more kids that safely can play all games, but there are some kids that can't.

So i think they should keep age restrictions. Games i think will do the most harm if handed to the wrong person is, GTA IV, World of Warcraft and MMORPG´s in general. I also think World of Warcraft has harmed more kids and other persons more than any other game.
World of Warcraft actually creates asociality and other syndroms based on fear of interacting with people. I really want to have an age restriction for World of Warcraft, there are so many good reasons to have one.

And finally, please be mature and see that this is MY opinion and some facts taken from other people. So don't baulder to "YOUR WRONG, THATS NOT FACTS, FUKK YOU JERK"
But please discuss this with me if you want to, and with that i really mean a real discussion. Not a "Your wrong i'm right" contest.

So peace out yall.

P.S: I love games, i play games alot and love every kind of game.
I have every major console and play all of them, so i'm not an old lady complaining about $#@!.

[darkdex52]

lol? Underaged kids can't buy knives in USA? o.O How ****ed up is that? Now that's what I call paranoid.

I have a army swiss knife with me all the time, and I must say, that it's really useful to have one. I use it when I go fishing, bbq'ng e.t.c.

oh, well..........

[bah]

This is crazy.

I had plenty of knives amongst other things when I was far younder than 16, never cut let alone stabbed anyone.
Had my Dad's tool shed at my disposal and guess what, I was able to use anything from there as a tool, not a weapon.

They even mention that the knives in question are kitchen knives!
Flick knives (switchblades) ok, but kitchen knives?
I certainly have never heard of kitchen knives not being sold to 'kids'.

A 5 year old, fair enough, reject them in good sense.
But a 16 yr old? They may be immature but they are not a kid, and I dont beleive your average 16 yr old is going to be buying kitchen knives for stabbing people.
One was a girl. Sorry to stereotype, but a 16 yr old female buying kitchen knives. That would lead me to think she is going to........ Cook dinner?

Nanny state ++

[chanaz]

eww age restriction? How about a stupid kid restriction. Who the hell came up with the whole kids do violent crimes because of something they saw in a video game. They do it cause they're ****ing psychopathic. And if parents dont want kids playing violent video games, then why not stop them from playing them in the first place.

[trugamer]

idiot... this is about how illegal it is to sell games and knives to kids of this age. Also what are the ages of people committing stabbings? They are teenagers. And shops are selling knives to them. Open your eyes and see past your own made up world and don't assume things rather look at reality if you can comprehend such a thing.

I'm not complainign about the knives- read it again and you'll see I made my complaints about people talking about video games.

The fact they lump games and knives together only proves my point- is giving a 16 year old a knife as dangerous as playing GTA?

And clearly the teenagers who did this are clearly sensible people as they are doing volunteer work for the local council.

And calling me an idiot when you did't even read what I put, you should really think before you start
flaming people. You're the one who looks like an idiot.

EDIT: I'd like to point out you have fallen into the trap of asociating the two because the article does, this is partly caused by the journalists who wrote the article and the council for doing the tests at the same time (which is perfectly reasonable as it takes quite a lot of organisation to set up something like this, in total something like 5 people are needed + volunteers).

GTA and knife crime are unrelated. I haven't played the game but I know its mostly revolved around cars and guns, the knife is probably a weapon but then its a weapon in lots of games, and it isn't the knife that makes it an 18.

And do you really believe if 16 year olds could buy knives knife crime among minors would go up? No they sold kitchen knices, present in pretty much every kitchen in the country. We all know that knife crime (as a whole) is going down but the media is currently honing in on knife crime among minors. Is it rising? probably. But all your concerns about knives come from one place: the media. And the journalist making those stories wants you to be concerned about one thing, and clearly you are. I will also mention that there was a time when a 16 year old could by a knife but recently that has increased, most stores executed an 18s only store policy on knives anyway.

Give me a break for coming up with my own opinions about games when you're just echoing the media in your

[chanaz]

trugamer i agree. Thats like saying Cooking Mama for Wii should be rates 18+ because your using a knife with a wiimote. *~*QUICK ALERT JACK THOMPSON! THOSE BASTARDS ARE TRAINING PUR KIDS TO KILL WITH KNIVES*~*

[kjetil1991]

The parents must keep the children away from violent video games until their mind is old enough to understand what you can do and not do

[Baboon]

Haha... this is where I'm from. lol

I'll better go out and get a flak jacket to avoid the trouble on the mean streets of Plymouth! lol