Life After Death, proven!

[Maturion]

I believe in God. I always did. This will never change. I don't need any proof.

[ICE]

Heres what I dont understand. Being satisfied with "I dont know if there is or isnt a god". Now I know that many of you would argue that there is no definitive way to know for sure but doing nothing wreaks of ignorance of the potential importance of the matter.

All I am saying is if you're open to the idea snoop around a little and see if there is a belief system that makes sense to you. After all if there is no god then who cares. No one wins, no one loses. However, if I am right and there is a god then you should all care quite a lot. Oh and most importantly of all listen to no ones opinion of the semantics of religion. Find out on your own. Everyone is biased.

[ninja9393]

Ice if you want people to believe what they want, then why can't they just not conform to a religion and have separate beliefs of their own

Or do they have to pick a religion they might not even 100% agree on...

[ICE]

I didnt say they couldnt. In fact thats the very reason I used the phrase "belief system" rather than religion and why I said "Find out on your own. Everyone is biased". My whole point was just that if you have the "maybe there is, maybe there isnt" outlook then perhaps you should look into the maybe there is bit. It could be important.

[ninja9393]

I didnt say they couldnt. In fact thats the very reason I used the phrase "belief system" rather than religion and why I said "Find out on your own. Everyone is biased". My whole point was just that if you have the "maybe there is, maybe there isnt" outlook then perhaps you should look into the maybe there is bit. It could be important.

ahhh im cool with that

my personal philosophy is kinda laid back, I just want to live my life how it is and not even think about a religion for me, in my eyes, whatever happens... happens. But, I want to live my life good with my own set of morals

I do agree with you that everyone should have the ability to practice/believe what they want, a people flip flopping religons, should try to decide.

I am just personally happy right now, and that is just enough for me

[DarthPaul]

This sounds too smart for me to come in... But meh, here I go.

You guys have good points from what I've read so far. But I'd like to comment something about Shadow's point.

If, like you say... This energy remains intact until the day you die, and then transforms into some other energy, how come the human being(and every other life-form) gets old and loses it's energy as time passes? We clearly don't have the same energy as we did before. The organs run slower, our minds don't process as well as they used to, our sight degrades, our legs slow down... The energy goes somewhere else before we die. In my opinion, it doesn't remain intact.

But with all honesty, I don't seriously care about what happens. It will happen anyway. And I'll just enjoy my life while it lasts.

I'm with ninja9393 on this one.

Very interesting article.

[shadowprophet]

This sounds too smart for me to come in... But meh, here I go.

You guys have good points from what I've read so far. But I'd like to comment something about Shadow's point.

If, like you say... This energy remains intact until the day you die, and then transforms into some other energy, how come the human being(and every other life-form) gets old and loses it's energy as time passes? We clearly don't have the same energy as we did before. The organs run slower, our minds don't process as well as they used to, our sight degrades, our legs slow down... The energy goes somewhere else before we die. In my opinion, it doesn't remain intact.

But with all honesty, I don't seriously care about what happens. It will happen anyway. And I'll just enjoy my life while it lasts.

I'm with ninja9393 on this one.

Very interesting article.

simple, just as the grand canyon was formed over millions of years.

time effects everything in the physical universe, as we grow old our bodies age wither with time and become weak.

this is not a matter of weather grandpa is more or less as alive as you are.

he is breating, thinking,functioning and in every sense as alive as you.

maybe not as young.
maybe not as strong.

but most certainly he is among the living at the time of presumed question, just you are.

so assuming grandpa is still among the living with us.
then he is most certainly as alive as us,

untill that transition of life/takes place.

[ICE]

From the time we are conceived we are dying. Are cells are constantly dying off and being replaced by others in our bodies attempt to stave off our own death. Time really does make fools of us all. Even our bodies.

[shadowprophet]

From the time we are conceived we are dying. Are cells are constantly dying off and being replaced by others in our bodies attempt to stave off our own death. Time really does make fools of us all. Even our bodies.

cells die, they also duplicate and thrive,

we as an individual are not dead till the final moment.
I have a sc$#@! on my knee, those cells are damaged and dead, but am i any less alive then someone without a scraped knee?

we arent talking about age and sickness, or the determination of youth, we are talking about the fine line between life and death,

as common sense can tell us something isn't dead till it ceases to live..

imo assuming someone is less alive because they are simply older,is a flawed concept.


for instance, i am younger then wraggster, not by much, but does that make me more alive then him?

on a scientific standpoint, the conversion of energy wouldn't take place untill true actual death occurs at any rate.

[ICE]

In about 7 years time our bodies will have replaced every single cell in our body. It does this every 7 years or so. It doesnt do it for fun, it does it because our cells are constantly dying and if it didnt replace them we would die as well. Our bodies are full of cell death.

I'm not saying that older people are deader, I'm just saying that once we're alive we arent getting aliver. Our bodies wear out and we die. That process starts when we're conceived.

A worn out car is still a car and a worn out person is still a person. Its just that they are clearly closer to death than a younger person. The thing is there is no gray area between life and death. You're either one or the other. But you cant say that as you live your life and your body starts getting a little behind in replacing its dying cells that you arent at least a little closer to death than you were when you were a kid.

Obviously there are other factors in the wearing of our bodies besides cell death but you get my point.