PSIX Feature List Released

[lowride]

Homebrew should be free! Its always been free, why should psix change that? If it could. However, I completely understand that charging is an attempt to justify the effort that Fluff intends to put in for future development, because donations dont cover it.

The question for me is whether Psix is worth paying for? But with the current feature set of the full version, I wont be downloading it for free. Make it worth while and I will donate.

[Athlonman74]

Man, what is this with the "You owe me everything for free attitude."??? This attitude just plain stinks and IS THE REASON why people are leaving the PSP homebrew scene. If your not bitching and moaning about the quality of the work (It's FREE Damnit), you're bitching and moaning about someone charging for an ADVANCED version of the software. If half you guys could create a program like FLUFF has done with PSIX you would understand where he's comming from. It's gimmie, gimmie, gimmie and nothing and return. I for one will be paying for PSIX, I'm a programmer and I know what it takes to program and PSIX is just amazing. Even if he doesn't release more features, it's still worth $15 for all the past 7 mo that he has put into it. As for somebody releasing this after paying for it, I'm sure some low-life will, BUT IT WILL NOT BE ME. Keep on trucking FLUFF you have my support 100%.

[urherenow]

Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Article 27
1.- Everyone has the right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community, to enjoy the arts and to share in scientific advancement and its benefits.

umnn... I fail to see your point in trying to slam this in someone's face. Ok... so you have the RIGHT to freely participate etc... and share...

What the heck says you're OBLIGATED?

I've used the reputation thing on this thread more than on any other. a couple people had good form and posted their god given right to an opinion without BASHING others and using unnecesarry bad language, but far too many people on this thread have been out of line so I've given out my first few 'dissaprove's. The most relevant post in this thread IMHO is the one by DraconumPB . Double goes for his little addition that he edited in. Considering the fact that I doubt this FLUFF guy paid for a real PSP DEV kit, he MUST be using free, open source tools to make his software, making PSIX for money ILLEGAL on several levels. --- umnn... to clarify, I know there are free tools around that ALLOW you to use to make stuff for profit... but I don't believe the current libraries for the PSP go by such a license.

If it ends up having functionality that I want, then I will buy it anyway, but I have a feeling that the 'advanced' paid for project is going to get shut down in a bad way before too long.

just my 2 cents... or maybe it was 4 ...

[lowride]

Well unfortunately, Fluff having worked 7 hard months does not automatically qualify for my payment as it does for you. If psix is being sold then the consumer has the right to critically discuss its features and I'd say also lose the right to use 'I put a lot of effort in' as a selling point.

This thread is concentrating on the payment issue not about the free one with limited features. Nearly all the features are available for free on the homebrew scene in pieces. For the payment version, Fluff's hard work will not pay off until something new to homebrew is added, while still appriciating the effort 100%.

[Timale-Kun]

Is it legal to make someone pay for a Playstation Portable Software wich is not signed/agreed by Sony?? Anyway maybe they've a lack of donation that's why he do that to keeping developing on PSP, But Everybody use to know Homebrew for Free it'll be difficult to make people agree with Homebrew selling...

[zurt]

umnn... I fail to see your point in trying to slam this in someone's face. Ok... so you have the RIGHT to freely participate etc... and share...

What the heck says you're OBLIGATED?

The human rights never obligate, they are rights, man... I don't want to slam nones face.

In the other hand, don't take the "share" part, take the "right to enjoy the arts" part, if it's not free not everybody has the opportunity to enjoy it.

And if we take the "right freely to participate in the cultural life of the community" part, without source code there is no way to participate...

By the way, I didn't say he had the obligation to share, I just suggested him to do so. I don't want the legal part to be a reason, that's repressive... I would be happier if people just shared cause they want to share and they think is good to share their knowledge with others. (yes I live in Teddy bears world, dammit!!! )

[vidgrip]

Most arguments as to why Fluff should share his code are just because he should, or because Homebrew is supposed to be free, and some of the posts are coming from people who are certainly using there PSPs for less than legal pursuits running ISOs and the like.

And still more posts as to why he should give away his code are peppered with fowl language and attacks... Probably not the best argument.

The argument that unlicensed software shouldn't be payed for is also a weak argument. Activision certainly didn't have Atari's permission to create games for the 2600, and these were some of the best games on the system.

Unlicensed games have appeared on just about every platform, and while the majority of them haven't been great (The Adult Titles, and Bible Titles on NES)
It was the consumers option whether or not to purchase them.

If PSIX gets released and is sub-par believe me the Newsgroups will be littered with bad reviews and you can choose not to purchase it, but if it's a real alternative to SONY's (Firmware 2.whatever) then I think it's worth rewarding these coders for a job well done.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I have donated to coders who made great strides on the PC and Dreamcast, and I don't mind paying for a good product.

[Illegal Machine]

**** these mother****ers


seriously, I don't give a $#@! over how much work you say you do. I don't as far as I'm concerned this is greed based, they see the download numbers on programs like umdemulator, and fastloader, and all the others, and they add them up from all of the sites, and figure "hey if these were dollars, Id be happy as a clam!" well, fluff, those numbers arent dollars, and if theres any justice in the world it never will be enough to make your sorry asses happy.


keeping a paypal account open is one thing, but demanding cash for vaporware is total bull. no matter how you cut it, the facts remain.


THERE WASNT EVEN A BETA RELEASE! NO ONE EVEN KNOWS IF ITS COOL OR NOT, HOW CAN YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT ASKING FOR MONEY FOR SOMETHING YOU NEVER EVEN RECIEVED FEEDBACK ON? really now "team psiX" are you that freakin cool that you just know your programs are just soooo awesome and filled with awesomeness?



Guess what team psiX, Humma Kavulla and friends never demanded to be paid, neither did anyone who developed ANY emulator (something which in the end is more impressive than what youre doing) neither did team emergency exit, or any RESPECTABLE team for that matter. they might leave the door open for a donation, but thats not the same.


everyone else in the dev scene is better than team psiX, both as programmers, and as people..


I have NO respect for people like psiX.

NONE

[PSPloverz]

Excuse me, but I wish to clear up some common misconceptions that you guys seem to have:

Fluff is donating 35% (His share of the money) to the Scene, he is not keeping one bit for himself. The rest is going to the coder who has been working constantly on this program and meeting the expectations of you guys. He has the full right to ask for a few bucks in return, devs ask for donations all of the time, you don't complain about that.

Fluff and Qubitz will provide a free version of the program which will feature more features than PSP-OSS at the momment.

There was a beta release to all of those who were choosen to test the program, and by there reports, it is one hell of a program

[logicbomb.de]

**** these mother****ers


seriously, I don't give a $#@! over how much work you say you do. I don't as far as I'm concerned this is greed based, they see the download numbers on programs like umdemulator, and fastloader, and all the others, and they add them up from all of the sites, and figure "hey if these were dollars, Id be happy as a clam!" well, fluff, those numbers arent dollars, and if theres any justice in the world it never will be enough to make your sorry asses happy.


keeping a paypal account open is one thing, but demanding cash for vaporware is total bull. no matter how you cut it, the facts remain.


THERE WASNT EVEN A BETA RELEASE! NO ONE EVEN KNOWS IF ITS COOL OR NOT, HOW CAN YOU EVEN THINK ABOUT ASKING FOR MONEY FOR SOMETHING YOU NEVER EVEN RECIEVED FEEDBACK ON? really now "team psiX" are you that freakin cool that you just know your programs are just soooo awesome and filled with awesomeness?



Guess what team psiX, Humma Kavulla and friends never asked for money, neither did anyone who developed ANY emulator (something which in the end is more impressive than what youre doing) neither did team emergency exit, or any RESPECTABLE team for that matter.


everyone else in the dev scene is better than team psiX, both as programmers, and as people..


I have NO respect for people like psiX.

NONE

LOLMFAO!!!

You're good for a few laughs, I'll give you that!!

too bad you have no concept whatsoever about what it takes to create something yourself either for you or for anyone else.

what else have you done beside beside troll these and other PSP forums on your God give crusade against PSIX??? absolutely jack $#@!.

Oh yeah, Humma Kavula should be praised be cause he allowed us to play pirate ISO, but no, he never asked for any money, LOLOLOLOL

you are so very ignorant, arrogant, and will probably never accomplish anything at all in your sad little life other than to put "teh n00bz in there place".

go code me some "hello world" on ANY platform, even BASIC 2.0; then you can come back and talk.

Respect???? RESPECT??? you have no effin clue what that means.