Yabause - Sega Saturn Emulator for Dreamcast Released

[wraggster]

The Yabause Team have released a new version of their Saturn Emulator for Dreamcast, not much new mostly just a bug fixing release.

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[kohan69]

no performance increase?

any game that isn't unplayable?

[BlueCrab]

no performance increase?

any game that isn't unplayable?

There's no performance increase or any new Dreamcast-specific code, hence why I didn't post news about it anywhere myself.

As for games being playable, don't count on that happening any time in the near future. The Dreamcast port will most definitely never run as well as the Linux/Mac/Windows versions, and nobody should really expect it to. I'd like to see the day that something is playable on it (as the one responsible for the Dreamcast version, after all), but I'm not holding my breath -- nobody else should be either.

[kohan69]

There are liek 3-4 good 2D Saturn games that were not arcade ports, maybe with speedhacks, if someone makes a few.

No one should be expecting 3D games ofcourse

[BlueCrab]

There are liek 3-4 good 2D Saturn games that were not arcade ports, maybe with speedhacks, if someone makes a few.

No one should be expecting 3D games ofcourse

The funny part is that "3D" games should in theory be faster. 2D games that make heavy use of VDP2 will always be more difficult to emulate than games that barely use it at all.

[dj vectorman]

First off let me say i posted this long post because i cant make threads here. Im old and i know alot about sega, im a huge sega fan and i posted on various sega forums last year asking a vcd on dc software only to play vcd on dreamcast (NOT hong kong vcd/mp3 w/ remote player hardware) question and no one could answer how to do it except you guys at this forum...i had to figure it out some on my own though. If anybodys interested how to do it (for retro sega sake, playing movies or youtube videos on dreamcast) i can tell you how.

ANYWAY :

*I had to sell my cdx back in day, i really liked it. I was going to buy another one but im not spending $150 on one even though 5,000 - 10,000 were only made when i have a saturn usb controller and kega fusion to play master system, game gear, genesis, sega cd and 32x games flawlessly on 1 emu.

I still have my saturn and dc consoles. Being that it seems ONLY a new windows 7 laptop can play a EMULATORS LIKE yabause 9.8 OR SSF 0.9 saturn game at 100% speed ON PC or dreamcast console can only play 2 sega cd games "heart of an alien" (other i forgot) but with NO sound...i've been thinking all this "theres no sega cd or saturn game that can ever be played at 100% speed on dreamcast, its impossible" talk is technically INCORRECT.

Sega themselves released a sega collection on dreamcast that had virtua cop 2 on it. Homebrewers are very smart, so smart they outsmarted sega by figuring out hardware and software add-ons schemes to pcs to "get around" gd bios for a cd-rom one...this story is long and IM SURE YOU GUYS KNOW ALL THE STEPS USING SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE DRIVES TO HACK DC CODES AND DC ITSELF SO I WONT KEEP TYPING THOSE AMAZING FEATS.

Anyway they can do all this complex dc pc hardware, sd card, mp3 WITH REMOTE hardware to sell for dc, make own games etc but they cant figure out saturn code on virtua cop 2 dreamcast collection game? All this "2 systems are too different saturn and dc, its impossible" need to stop yapping because sega DID IT. Virtua Cop 2 on dreamcast, why cant HOMEBREWERS RUN SATURN GAMES at 100% SPEED ON DREAMCAST, MAYBE STEALING CODES FROM VIRTUA COP 2 SEGA COLLECTIONS CD FOR DC?

I heard a rumour that sega lost some saturn source codes, while i like to think sega was always a organized biz with all game makers keeping files at sega hq, losing stuff dont surprise me for example sonic xtreme demo released on ebay (instead keep inside sega) by sonic developer in 2005 or a company not actually knowing how many of their LICENCED mega drive/GENESIS and its clones sold...model 2, nomad, jvc wondermega/x eye, sega wondermega, sega cdx, (1 working out of 5 neptune model), genesis 3, firecore, genmobile, retromobile, sega tec toy zone 40, etc...sold worldwide that just estimates 40 million instead of keeping documents of sells, has brought me back to reality that they are not too organized nor were they releasing so many variations of genesis before veto'ing sega cartridge neptune for cd saturn early on and just their post genesis to dreamcast promotion was horrid.

Anyway even though im not as retrocore to buy a genesis 1 model again with segacd model 1 with power base converter 1 or 2 or add 32x on or even rebuy another cdx because im happy with kega on my netbook with genesis/saturn usb controller, i find it hard to believe sega or a hb refuse to know how to make a "sega collection 2" with like 5 great saturn games AND 5 best sega cd games on 1 700 mb or actually they do make 800 and 900 mb cd-r discs, and release for dreamcast or even xbox live or wii using code.

I heard dreamcast games and followed soon will be saturn games online (not sega cd (?) eternal champions sega cd or sonic cd or silpheed cd or lunar cd or final fight cd ???) but damn...it'll be cool to play on dc.

Also a sd card add on was made last month for dreamcast that can play many emus, why cant they put sega cd or saturn games and emus on that, because doesnt psp play emus of sega cd on it? The sd card plugs into dc control port

Thats basically want i wanted to say and ask ^.

But p.s. IS THERE A WAY TO RUN SSF ON DREAMCAST SO I CAN BOOT SATURN GAMES?

Mods, hoped i kept terminology "legal". Please respond everybody im eager to see what everyone has to say or can give me more info. Heres a great article :

http://www.racketboy.com/retro/sega/...-emulator.html

[Christuserloeser]

For SMS and Genesis games I highly recommend a Genesis 1 for $10-$15.

Dreamcast however does emulate SMS perfectly. So if you want to play some SMS games on Dreamcast, use SMSplusDC v02 or SMEG.

Yabause for Dreamcast boots Saturn games but it's not playable (yet). A better solution is a PC with 2x CPUs or a Saturn modchip.

Mega Drive / Genesis is not yet perfectly emulated. There are two decent attempts out there (Genesis Plus DC and the emulator that Sega made for Dream Library / Smash Pack) but neither is perfect. There is still hope though as Gens4DC aka Gens4All is still being worked on.
Again, a Genesis model 1 with flash cart is the better (=best) solution.

[dj vectorman]

Actually for me this is a better solution :

"i have a saturn usb controller and kega fusion to play master system, game gear, genesis, sega cd and 32x games flawlessly on 1 emu on my pc."

but if i had to have a sms, gen, sega cd, 32 console itll be a cheap cdx...its smaller less mess than model ones add ons. i grew up on genesis and owned several even wondermega and cdx but those model ones and add ons and power cords are a mess. But ima stick with kega on netbook.

Thx for answering me i think me and you are only current posters here lol. i was mainly asking if ssf can perfectly play saturn on dc console as yabause is slow but u answered, thx, ill just play my saturn console as even ssf on my pcs are iffy for saturn games. one day saturn and dc emu will be perfect on pc emu and be flawless on on xbox live etc but i luv my saturn and dc consoles, genesis got place in my heart but like i said i like sms sega cd gen 32x games and model setups are too messy for me now a days ima a lil bored of those games. i just wished my dc could do it all...saturn sega cd etc.

but the 8 bit and 16 bit emu and roms i have for dc run great, esp nintendo znes dreamnes genemu and others. its a bummer sega cd (except 2 games) or saturn cant play on dc.

even a retron3 would be better for me if i had to have a console but cdx is so kool and can run add ons like 32 x base conveter etc but i luv kega on pc with usb saturn controller.