Ceasefire in the Battle of the PSP Scene

[Yeldarb]

Wow, this has been a long time coming =)

Congrats guys, hopefully this won't be a shortlived peace.

[Kaiser]

Artical One:
All psp site are to agnoage the existance of each other
and in responce provide a list of links to all other psp websites
"this includes Sony and GameStop, wether they agree it up to them"

Does that mean we should post links even to those harming the scene. By what your saying that means we should embrace sites who support the dipshits who make loaders and make piracy easier.

Artical Two:
No more Private Releases
All Homebrew is to berelased to the public, with an atached copy of the sorce code,
no exceptions. Any site hosting private homebrew, will have all homebrew extraced and leaked.

Your saying news should be stolen because its exclusive. That means coders who might release stuff on there own site and do not wish to distribute it should get there stuff stolen regardless. Source code is usually only released for the previous version. For example an emulator on v1.10 would come out along with the previous version's source code (v1.0). That way its still open for people to learn and mess with but the original coder can maintain credit with the latest version.

Artical Three
Disscussion of any illegiel meteral is Banned by this treaty, and will be inforced strictly by site administrators
The above include (Any Sony Produced product, or ISO)
Exclusions: ROM's, and Ingame Elements, GamePorts from other systems

Some stuff here clashes\ . Your saying anything illegal shouldn't be allowed to be discussed. Okay, lets say I made a port of Half-Life and released it on PSP. Your saying it should be allowed but isent that wrong? The only time a port is legal is when its a freeware open-sourced program. (e.g Quake or Doom).

[DraconumPB]

well i think all this thus far has been rather silly.. but...

to be honest with you, I don't quite understand the benefit one might recieve from going to pspupdates.. they have a few more files that are organized better than the files here, but I've seen other psp file repositories... plus, the comment-posters there are all completely moronic... at least here there's quite a bit of discussion and banter from semi-intelligent people.. usually anyway

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, all wrag needs is a better way to organize and manage psp downloads... excepting that, this is the best site around I've found...

but hopefully this really is a 'cease fire' and not just a break from tension.

[FrozenIpaq]

Peace and Harmony has begun, I send my congrats to both sites for finally getting along. Now, let the PSP Scene flourish and PSMonkey finish his N64 emulator

I'm very grateful to have my account unbanned and thank Wraggster for this gesture

well i think all this thus far has been rather silly.. but...

to be honest with you, I don't quite understand the benefit one might recieve from going to pspupdates.. they have a few more files that are organized better than the files here, but I've seen other psp file repositories... plus, the comment-posters there are all completely moronic... at least here there's quite a bit of discussion and banter from semi-intelligent people.. usually anyway

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, all wrag needs is a better way to organize and manage psp downloads... excepting that, this is the best site around I've found...

but hopefully this really is a 'cease fire' and not just a break from tension.

Might not want to say the files are unorganized The new DL site is the precious stone of the site now. I find it to be much more organized then before, although it doesn't contain all the homebrew releases, it covers the most recent versions of the popular ones. Everyone must admit that the old download site was unorganized, but the new one is a good improvement.

Also, the comment section is gong to be moderated with a new CMS in place, where-as before only those that had access to the blogger could moderate it, this might change with the new CMS.

I enjoy going to both DCEmu and PSPU for my PSP needs, finding that both places may post the same news, but each have their own news posts that the other does not, so I shall continue going to both to support the scene as you shall call it ;P


@Smiths:

If you say that PSPU just copies and pastes information for a news posts, you might want to take the time to look at Jake's (MalumEnSe's) posts. They contain truthful words from himself on the program that I find helpful at times when determining whether or not to download the program. QJ is making an honest effort to improve their news posting, and as we have seen throughout the months, they have.

Also, they post more than homebrew Notice the non-homebrew articles..although those could be improved upon, they are still making that effort. Also, PSPU had an exclusive Infected Contest and supported the game along with an interview with the game's creator(s).

PS: I like the gardening site idea..maybe it will make gamers into peace-loving gardners

[iball]

Actually, since Wraggster banned me for pointing out how Yoshi was stealing someone else's source code I've gotten along great without DCEMU.
Since both sites "borrow" news from each other and other places, I didn't miss a thing.

[wraggster]

Actually, since Wraggster banned me for pointing out how Yoshi was stealing someone else's source code I've gotten along great without DCEMU.
Since both sites "borrow" news from each other and other places, I didn't miss a thing.

Actually i didnt ban you, believe it was Metafox or another admin, i believe you were getting annoiyng or whatever but it wasnt me.

Now as for the Yoshihiro thing, i had countless emails with the original coder of the emulator and we investigated that he was using an old source that was released and not any stolen source code, believe me there was a lot of emails but i got the truth.

So that killed 2 myths

As for people liking me or not ive never really cared what others thought of me, i know that my sites are good news sites and we have a good community here, i wont ever link to crappy warez posting or those that allow discussion of it,

Now theres some cause of concern that should be addressed over at both PSPU and Fanjitas sites, both of your download links, ie fanjitas site and also the file thing over at PSPU dont credit any of the original coders sites or indeed release threads, email releases dont come into it as no one can proove if it was emailed in news or stolen off another site.

But those links MUST be included and ASAP to be fair on all coders.

for those that think ive gone soft, hell no but when my fellow staff members and coders ask that i do this gesture then ive given things another chance.

[PSmonkey]

I dont mind fanjita site linking to pspu downlaod providing pspu download section is updated to have a link to the authors website. So when you go to the dl section you can also quickly go check their site for updated news on their project (or to see if maybe fajita's list or pspu is out of date).

To me that is reasonable.
Why? My section of the forums have alot of good constructive post & replys from users using my work. This gives me the feedback i need on my work. If nobody linked to my site I would not get back half the constructive feedback I get now.

[djp]

i have posted my reply and thoughts on this whole situation on you know where.

- djp

[Smiths]

Also, PSPU had an exclusive Infected Contest and supported the game along with an interview with the game's creator(s).

Hahahah! The Infected "contest" was a joke amongst the community. complete with the amazngly talented "review" of that horrible game by your unbiased "staff"

Een a winner of the "contest" admitted he faked it. That was hilarious, too.
Any "integrity" you attempted to have as a "real" network was shot down even more with that Infected crap.
But man we had a great laugh.

If Jake's posts went up the asses of specific creator's more, he'd just be living inside of them.
His face must reek of $#@! with how far he's been climbing inside some people.
That ain't improved news-posting, it's simple ass-kissing.

Now theres some cause of concern that should be addressed over at both PSPU and Fanjitas sites, both of your download links, ie fanjitas site and also the file thing over at PSPU dont credit any of the original coders sites or indeed release threads, email releases dont come into it as no one can proove if it was emailed in news or stolen off another site.

100% agree. If this is to be any form of "change" (yea right, we just had Clay admitting it's still solely for profit), then your little download site at P$PU must be entirely updated to include download links to all original release threads/homepages from every single author[/i].

After all, as a "business", you must practice different ideals than an "enthusiast" site. One of them is always crediting the proper sources.

Wragg's stance -- which still should be in effect -- was not mature as hell, but as far as an b]enthusiast site goes: it's allowed.

P$PU is a commercial venture. For them to even have censored news post comments with proper sourcing, change articles to say "we were mailed this project", and to not even have links in the project's download repository for such a long period of time shows just how ****ing horrible a bu$ine$$ it really is to you guys.

Oh, and sucks about the GP2X thing huh? Can't make a business out of that system, since even Squidge already beat your asses with his disclaimer.
Even if you made a GP2X blog to attempt to make $$$ off a 100% homebrew-based system, you could already never post an awesome SNES emulator, along with several other amazing projects.

But again... good luck with the gardening site.

All a "truce" does is make it easier for us to see who really doesn't give a $#@!.
We already know Wragg doesn't... but now it'll be great to watch P$PU suddenly have to try and pretend they truly give a $hit about the user$ and programmer$.

[cdrdj]

It's nice that this whole "feud" has come a step closer to being settled. But I hate it when people like Smiths just can't accept it and just HAS to complain about every little thing that they don't like. Why must they be so childish? Now, don't get me wrong, I don't care about WHAT they say (Everyone can already tell they're fools without me telling them), I just hate HOW they say it. To me, Smiths would be like the Jack Thompson of the PSP scene (my thoughts about them, not what they stand for). He just blurts out anything to make fools of and discredit others. It's not the content, it's the whiny and derogative attitude. I'd love to side with you on this whole Pspupdates thing, but the way you put things, I'd choose them over you anyday.

Anyways, it's good to see the wall somewhat coming down. Great job and thank you guys for constantly being the #1 psp site in any category.