Grand Theft Auto Chinatown Wars Released by Pirates

**JushinLiger** · March 16th, 2009, 11:59

I agreewith the whole confusion over similar games being released the same time as big commercial games. By no stretch of the imagination does GTA fall into naff games, I won't spoil for those that are buying it but it is definatley worth RRP. It has really set a standard and shown that some developers really aren't trying their hardest.
There is the odd gem that falls through by smaller games developers that no-one notices until someone points out and says "This is actually quite good".

**crookedmouth** · March 16th, 2009, 12:53

I do think it's funny that many people try to justify their copy-right infringement.

Even in this own thread people have used the "I can't afford games so it's alright to download them" argument.

Why should people who can afford them buy them again?

The argument that so many games are crap, is funny also. Do you think every person who downloads a game and enjoys it runs out and buys the game? Perhaps some do but I think we can agree that many don't.

If I go out to eat and a dish that I thought sounded good tastes horrible, I don't walk out without paying. I talk to people before I go to this restaurant or read reviews.

Someone else even defined "theft" and found it didn't fit exactly with software piracy, well how about defining copy-right infringement?

I'm no innocent here but when I take something and enjoy it without paying, I call it what it is. I don't try to find some loop-hole for my conscience.

Personally, I think the pathetic ease of DS piracy is damaging against the development of very good games also.

As I said I'm not being righteous here, just not "candy coating" my actions.

**livnbob** · March 16th, 2009, 12:56

hmm...so the people who would've stolen it later are stealing it now, bragging to their friends about how fun the game is. Sounds like an excellent advertising strategy, a cheap way of stimulating the interest of nintendo's law abiding fans while highlighting the scourge of piracy. I have to wonder if this was intentional. After all, my own pirate friends wouldn't have bought the game for months if there was any chance of being able to play it for free. Plus, I'd rather try a game before buying it, and this way I can play it at a friend's house and still buy it the day it comes out if I am so inclined.

**kojiro7** · March 16th, 2009, 13:54

Originally Posted by crookedmouth

I do think it's funny that many people try to justify their copy-right infringement.

Even in this own thread people have used the "I can't afford games so it's alright to download them" argument.

Why should people who can afford them buy them again?

The argument that so many games are crap, is funny also. Do you think every person who downloads a game and enjoys it runs out and buys the game? Perhaps some do but I think we can agree that many don't.

If I go out to eat and a dish that I thought sounded good tastes horrible, I don't walk out without paying. I talk to people before I go to this restaurant or read reviews.

Someone else even defined "theft" and found it didn't fit exactly with software piracy, well how about defining copy-right infringement?

I'm no innocent here but when I take something and enjoy it without paying, I call it what it is. I don't try to find some loop-hole for my conscience.

Personally, I think the pathetic ease of DS piracy is damaging against the development of very good games also.

As I said I'm not being righteous here, just not "candy coating" my actions.

Noone is candy coating its actions.People do not understand that pirates help the companies to expand.Companies calculate the number of original copies they will sell and product them.If their game is good it will sell almost all or all of its copies produced.They sell 1 million or 2 and they are super happy.You wont see a Gta Chinatown copy to the shelves for too long,the people who buy it,will buy it.But people with less money will download it and companies know that well.And so Rockstar will be famous again in China,Mexico,Pakistan and wherever not rich people live....

**loungelizard** · March 16th, 2009, 14:02

Originally Posted by crookedmouth

I do think it's funny that many people try to justify their copy-right infringement.

Even in this own thread people have used the "I can't afford games so it's alright to download them" argument.

Why should people who can afford them buy them again?

The argument that so many games are crap, is funny also. Do you think every person who downloads a game and enjoys it runs out and buys the game? Perhaps some do but I think we can agree that many don't.

If I go out to eat and a dish that I thought sounded good tastes horrible, I don't walk out without paying. I talk to people before I go to this restaurant or read reviews.

Someone else even defined "theft" and found it didn't fit exactly with software piracy, well how about defining copy-right infringement?

I'm no innocent here but when I take something and enjoy it without paying, I call it what it is. I don't try to find some loop-hole for my conscience.

Personally, I think the pathetic ease of DS piracy is damaging against the development of very good games also.

As I said I'm not being righteous here, just not "candy coating" my actions.

Touché...

Very well put, but consider that if people find the need to justify themselves then it is because they have a conscience and would indeed rather buy the product out right.

The fact that we are still being made to pay between 40 and 50 Euros for Mario Kart which is one of the first releases just goes to show that the industry does not give a flying wotsname about the consumer.

I do feel guilty about d/ling games but when I see the prices in the game shop I suddenly feel better, and slightly proud.

So there you go.

p.s.
Quick after thought: the game is about crime, killing, stealing etc... Would it not be hypocritical for them to mention the fact that it is a crime or theft to pirate this game...???

**jaws365** · March 16th, 2009, 16:45

Great game!

**Lastron** · March 16th, 2009, 17:01

Three letters: SAD

I mean people need to make money!

How can they make money when a bunch of 'thieves' steal it first.

Would you walk into the shop and steal the game? No.

People spend months on games in an attempt to make enough money to live happy lives AND to make future games!

Game piracy is no different from film piracy. If you want the game BUY it!

**talonreaper** · March 16th, 2009, 18:31

I like to compare piracy to reselling--the company isn't going to see a penny either way and would stop it if they could. While it's true that because of piracy, prices may go up a little, but do you guys think that even if Nintendo and all these video game development companies actually got every penny for their works, the prices would reflect it? With all the sleaze in the industry right now, I don't think so.

**luminouslight** · March 16th, 2009, 19:21

Well, I am not too keen on piracy; however, I do see a general trend to where gaming is going as a result. Here is an example. I had recently bought Empire Total War. Empire Total war is a steam exclusive game. When you buy a game off steam, you don't technically own it, you own the rights to play the game. So wait.... I bought a game and I don't even own it?! That and also Steam has the ability to take away those rights on a mere whim. Now most new games involve some sort online activation every time you start up your game. I think it's just going to get worse starting here on out.

**jacksprat1990** · March 17th, 2009, 00:30

We're not all lucky enough to have a good job. Some can't get a job at the moment cos this world is s**t. It's not like the developers don't make a living. They probably work less than most people and have fun whilst doing it. And there is the poor people who work there asses off, most likely not having fun and and have to spend their hard earned cash on being able to live. I say let there be pirates. These people deserve something....