Bible In Basic English for PSPs v2.0+

[DrX]

teh thing is religion much like a country if u dont stop to think about what ur doing and just are going on and on accordingly to what ever some one else tells u horrible $#@! can happen u need to question religion and analize it just like u would with politics... and do what u think is rigth but thats just my 2 cents

but theres lots of things wrong in life like ppl dying over cartoons and such i do agree that christians have to put up with alot more crap though as far as criticism goes and making fun of case inpoint popular movies like dogma and such if that kinda $#@! was done about say islam $#@! would be blown up and lit on fire and then stomped on

[Pinguin]

I usually dress up, so, this is great. My Bible usually falls from under my arm.. (not good)
so this is actually quite the application.

[Pinguin]

This is quite the application, because, I do carry a Bible, and acually use it. (It falls quite often, though because I dress up.) I am glad someone finally thought of this. God is good.

[shadowprophet]

well the way i see it. they were bashing christianity, not any of you. they just said there opinion on christinaty, no one called any of you out by name. if a person belives in the book ok, if you dont ok, big effin deal. i think they should say anything thing they belive about the book, because with out talk about it you can not make an informed opinion on such a serious matter. so i belive this is the perfect place for it. i personaly dont belive in the book. manny reasons. your all like zombies..like sheep(just as the bible calls all of you). it contradicts it self from book to book. the first war was over religon. manny wars since have been over religous differences. there has been more blood spilled in the name of god than any other religon in the human history. spanish inquisition, hitler, As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.
Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer."
Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. [DA468]
Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues.
According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian teachings..."
In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities.
The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.
Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered, Antiochia (then turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000 slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed. Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (jewish, muslim, men, women, children).
(In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude")
The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished."
Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". One million victims of the first crusade alone.
Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ".
Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian.
Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20 million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone).
from the beginning of Christianity to 1484 probably more than several thousand.
in the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged
17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany: roughly 30,000 Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded," reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers."
17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of population decimated, mostly in Germany.
there is not enough room to fit all those slain in the name of god in the christin sence alone. not to mention the jews, and the arabs. rember all the same guy..the same guy. just thought of differently. this is realy too long o well. i could double it just christians killing alone.


Note: All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers.
i got my source from the web. check the names and everty thing if you want.
References:
[DA]
K.Deschner, Abermals krähte der Hahn, Stuttgart 1962.
[DO]
K.Deschner, Opus Diaboli, Reinbek 1987.
[EC]
P.W.Edbury, Crusade and Settlement, Cardiff Univ. Press 1985.
[EJ]
S.Eidelberg, The Jews and the Crusaders, Madison 1977.
[LI]
H.C.Lea, The Inquisition of the Middle Ages, New York 1961.
[MM]
M.Margolis, A.Marx, A History of the Jewish People.
[MV]
A.Manhattan, The Vatican’s Holocaust, Springfield 1986.
See also V.Dedijer, The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican, Buffalo NY, 1992.
[NC]
J.T.Noonan, Contraception: A History of its Treatment by the Catholic Theologians and Canonists, Cambridge/Mass., 1992.
[S2]
Newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany, 10/10/96, 12:00.
[SH]
D.Stannard, American Holocaust, Oxford University Press 1992.
[SP]
German news magazine Der Spiegel, no.49, 12/2/1996.
[TA]
A True Account of the Most Considerable Occurrences that have Hapned in the Warre Between the English and the Indians in New England, London 1676.
[TG]
F.Turner, Beyond Geography, New York 1980.
[WW]
H.Wollschläger: Die bewaffneten Wallfahrten gen Jerusalem, Zürich 1973.
(This is in german and what is worse, it is out of print. But it is the best I ever read about crusades and includes a full list of original medieval Christian chroniclers' writings).
[WV]
Estimates on the number of executed witches:

* N.Cohn, Europe's Inner Demons: An Enquiry Inspired by the Great Witch Hunt, Frogmore 1976, 253.
* R.H.Robbins, The Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and Demonology, New York 1959, 180.
* J.B.Russell, Witchcraft in the Middle Ages, Ithaca/NY 1972, 39.
* H.Zwetsloot, Friedrich Spee und die Hexenprozesse, Trier 1954, 56

this does not flame any person on the fourm. it merley states my point of view and states some facts about christian history. if you have a problem and flame me you are breaking rules.


ps. this is still kind of cool regarles of what i belive. because ebooks havent been going anywhere on this thing. mabey more people will do the same with other books.

You quote some random gibberish, And want to fact it out as a precise account of history?! Thats offencive
Yes the christains did fight in wars! Yes people did die at there hands.
And do you know why ?!

Because people Have the God given right To defend thereselves.
Thats right! At no point in the bible does the bible tell you to lay down and let somone take your life just because your christain.

The bible sais be ye as gentel as sheep yet as wise as the serpent,

Do you know what this means?
well it means a lot of things. But heres one of them.
If your family is christain. and you come home to find your family tied up and being tortured and $#@!d. (graphic I know but im makeing a point)

Dont just fall to you knees and say oh hes not christain I forgive him,
NO YOU DEFEND YOUR FAMILY!!! YOU FIGHT, YOU KILL, YOU DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO,TO PROTECT YOUR FAMILY!!
That is one of the most clear God given rights we have.
In the bible It sais to die for your faith is a blessing. But dont you think to just die because somone wants to wipe you off the face of the earth because they dont believe what you do is just insane?!. And back then as in today. people knew this, And yes you back somone up aginst the wall, And push them and push them and prod at them and You can very well expect resistance!
Yes jesus did die But he did it for a reason!!
Christains are not expected to throw there lives away at the drop of a hat!
There expected to see life for the gift it is and defend it if necessary!!
Thats a common beliefe amoung all kinds of people. But its just not true
It never sais that anytime that anyone tries to take your life, To just lay down and let them. Thats just plain insane!!
Look the fact of the matter is that anyone who doent believe in the book and hasnt read it for thereselves. Is just listening to what other people have to say about the issue?
it doesnt sound to my like youve read it.
you cant listen to what other peoples opinions are and say thats how you come to base your own opinion about somthing. If you do this your not thinking for yourself. Your letting others think for you, And im sure you can come back with all kinds of things to this. But the fact of the matter is, if you take somone elses opinion for the bible and dont read it for your self. you can come up with any excuse you want . But the fact is you where just to lazy to readit for yourself.

Before you quote random facts from history. Dont rip and distort history apart!!!
Thats takeing history out of its proper context and basicly missleading people. And even worse flat out lieing.

Before you convict a man of a crime. The proper way to do this is to give fair trial to the whole story. Its just possible that man did the things he did to save his entire familys life!!!

So while your quoting facts on top of facts. why dont you tell them why
the christains where hopelessly forced to fight for there lives on a day to day bases? just to survive ?! To keep there familys from being $#@!d and pillaged, murdered and sold into slavery? why dont you !!? ,, Oh thats right, you probibly didnt know, cause your just quoting random facts you looked up off an athiest site.

Thats right. Christians, The very word means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. To the athiest, it means sissy . Somone whos going to lay down and let people walk all over there faith and die as a pointless marter to prove a point.

Jesus did not die to proove a point to people. he did not die because every christain should jump up on a cross and follow him in his death on the cross. The very reason jesus died on the cross.
Was To pay the price for the sins of all man kind.
And for people to believe that every christain has to throw there live away just to proove a point only prooves peoples reluctance to actuelly READ WHAT JESUS TOUGHT!

Not to mention that people dont ever stop to take into account.
That just like any foundation since the beginning of time here on earth.
From time to time they will be corupt people even amoung christains?
If you gather a group of people large enough there are sure to be corupt people in the group.
You see bad examples lie somone doing somthing that shouldnt have, and all of the sudden somone judges all of christainity upon it.
Well fine then that it!! ITS MY TURN!!

Look on the news of all the horible things going on around us,
crimes upon children? crimes upon ourselves, most of them are athiest.
THEREFOR I JUDGE ALL CRIME TO BE OF ATHIEST DECENT AND THEREFOR ALL ATHIEST ARE CRIMINALS!

There how do you like them apples?

You dont do you? And why ? I'll tell you why . Cause its not true and its not fair.

Thats how athiest's judge christanity. istn turn about fair play


And I realize theres people here who could find this offencive. But if people can defend there beliefs. Then why can't a christain also defend his or her own beliefs ? And thats exactly what im doing.

[StealthCP]

Yes. That is right. Well thank you anyway for an excellent PSP Bible. I really wanted one of those. Heh, I have been thinking this for quite a while now, "Will someone make a bible for the PSP?" And they have. Thank you. I would not be a complete Christian, but I do find the Bible quite an interesting read. Even if you don't believe half the $#@! it's still a morality tale, and the rules should be followed for a flawless life.

[dcshoejake]

finally, christ comes to the psp, mom said it would never happen

[Hawkeyefile]

is their a book of mormom addon?

[Privateer]

Religion... oh boy.

Agnostic here. I'll try to throw out my two cents.

Shadowprophet, although your beginning points about disrespect aren't necessarily wrong, they are hypocritical in a way, because the other posters have just as much the right to bash any religion as you do to praise one. You're not forcing your religion onto them, sure, but they're not forcing it out of you either.

With that said, I think a little bit of modesty should be exercised here. If you dislike a certain relgion, you're free to make your points, but avoid doing such in a hateful or rude way.

As for the application itself... well... having an html, copy of the bible isn't really inventive or interesting in any way, nor is it really a psp application or homebrew piece - it's an internet browser document that happens to work with the PSP's browser. Could be useful to some, though. Meh.

[LC_killer]

shadow, my point was that christians act like the have no blood on thier hands. when the pope's in the past has order the killings of other christians, jews, arabs, native americans, and native people of south america. i think it is unwise to say "THEREFOR I JUDGE ALL CRIME TO BE OF ATHIEST DECENT AND THEREFOR ALL ATHIEST ARE CRIMINALS!" i think it is clossemided and just the type of thinking that kills people for being a nother religon. hey lets have a party and burn people at the stake because we think thier witches!! o rbetter yet. letts drown them ina river. if the float there withces, if the sink we just killed them and there fine. wooo hooo. letts be like cathlics and kill the prodestents!! i love killing people yay, or lets start in spain, then march to israel and kill everyone we see thats different than us. yay killing people 2we dont understand is fun!!! just becuase some old ****ing pope is some building said so. atta ck me if you want. i know i evauate what i read. and many errors in the bible. you"faith" blinds you. ****ing idiot. the christians were just as blood thirsty as the muslims are now. all religon as worthless!!
Me cago en Dios y los 365 santos del año!
Me cago en Dios y en la Puta Virgen!
Me parece que la vena de la lengua pasa por tu culo porque hablas mucha mierda!
idiots, act liek christians are perfect. everone shold live like them. you want a real peacefull religon. become buddhist. the christians have killed many many more people than the stupid arabs are killing. **** christ. false god. when will you wake upi and do a little reaserch in to those "wars" i listed. who started those wars, and who had whos family up agianst the wall. raping and killing? all of the crusades were order from the pope (more than one pope even).if you for one moments think your perfect, or your religon is perfect, you need to read about all of the christian history from anohter point of view than the bible. so in other words, **** YOU..**** CHRISTIANITY. i dont care if i get banned. big ****en deal. i wast trying to offend in my last post. i feel shadow was making a person attack at me when i did not call out any person or people. he called me out. if you cant handle that christains do stil and have killed people in cold blood thats your falt. look at history with out the blinfold on and you will see much more than you do. we never learn of these things because they dont want to look at their on falts. that the problem with christianity. pass the buck, were never wrong. we are perfect. i know im not perfect and i dont try to act like it. grow up and look at the facts. cristianity kills, and chinga tu madre shadow. bye

[shadowprophet]

shadow, my point was that christians act like the have no blood on thier hands. when the pope's in the past has order the killings of other christians, jews, arabs, native americans, and native people of south america. i think it is unwise to say "THEREFOR I JUDGE ALL CRIME TO BE OF ATHIEST DECENT AND THEREFOR ALL ATHIEST ARE CRIMINALS!" i think it is clossemided and just the type of thinking that kills people for being a nother religon. hey lets have a party and burn people at the stake because we think thier witches!! o rbetter yet. letts drown them ina river. if the float there withces, if the sink we just killed them and there fine. wooo hooo. letts be like cathlics and kill the prodestents!! i love killing people yay, or lets start in spain, then march to israel and kill everyone we see thats different than us. yay killing people 2we dont understand is fun!!! just becuase some old ****ing pope is some building said so. atta ck me if you want. i know i evauate what i read. and many errors in the bible. you"faith" blinds you. ****ing idiot. the christians were just as blood thirsty as the muslims are now. all religon as worthless!!
Me cago en Dios y los 365 santos del año!
Me cago en Dios y en la Puta Virgen!
Me parece que la vena de la lengua pasa por tu culo porque hablas mucha mierda!
idiots, act liek christians are perfect. everone shold live like them. you want a real peacefull religon. become buddhist. the christians have killed many many more people than the stupid arabs are killing. **** christ. false god. when will you wake upi and do a little reaserch in to those "wars" i listed. who started those wars, and who had whos family up agianst the wall. raping and killing? all of the crusades were order from the pope (more than one pope even).if you for one moments think your perfect, or your religon is perfect, you need to read about all of the christian history from anohter point of view than the bible. so in other words, **** YOU..**** CHRISTIANITY. i dont care if i get banned. big ****en deal. i wast trying to offend in my last post. i feel shadow was making a person attack at me when i did not call out any person or people. he called me out. if you cant handle that christains do stil and have killed people in cold blood thats your falt. look at history with out the blinfold on and you will see much more than you do. we never learn of these things because they dont want to look at their on falts. that the problem with christianity. pass the buck, were never wrong. we are perfect. i know im not perfect and i dont try to act like it. grow up and look at the facts. cristianity kills, and chinga tu madre shadow. bye

My problem is you want to put a lable on people. You want to say CHRISTIANS
killed people. The fact of the matter is the world is full of people that kill people. Thats just like saying, all of one group is guilty for the actions of a small potion of any given group. people are so narrow minded. and not just you. look at how the world judges people.
for the longest people dissrespceted people of arab decent. just because of the actions of a few of them. Germany, Germany got a bad name after world war 2, over the actions of there leaders. When in fact there where many in gernamy thats actuelly helped,cared for and hid jews from there psycho leader,

The thing is. There is somthing that trancends all religion, all creed and color, and all else. and that is we are all human, all subjet to do right and wrong and anything in between.

But when you are in a debate, dont drop to that was a personal attack and so and so's posts was aimed at you, Thats like being in the middle of a boxing ring and all of the sudden ,OH HE HIT ME!! WHY DID HE HIT ME?!, LOL , Thats what a freaken debate is, If you cant handel a debate, then dont be debateing.

Those people probibly did kill people. its between them and God for what they did, When you judge a whole group of people, based on a few peoples actions, even tho those actions might be clear enough to judge, What your actuelly doing is a form of predjudice, its ignorant to judge an entire group of people based on a fews actions, history has proven that over and over again, And you can call off numbers all day long and I know you can

But the fact of the matter is, those time periods where different then ours today, When they had problems they coudlnt just call the police or the fbi in to fix everything, It was a time of war.
And in war there is one simple rule above all else.

kill or die.

im sorry to just say it like that. but if you where in a war, those are your choices.

kill or die thats it.


And yeah cristains had people kill and all that jazz, But when your in a war, that pretty much implies people are gonna die.

in fact the only belief that has never really claimed any responcibility (FOR ANYTHING) is the athiests, its easy for an athiest to say ohh this and thats wrong, when the athiest belief has no past, athiests are indipendent, how can you track the athiest belief back and research it ? YOU CANT?
And you cant tell me thats because athiests have never did any wrong lol
its easy to be on the outside of somthing looking in and find faults.
NOTHING IS PERFECT.

But athiests are cowards at heart, and I say this out right, because they dont have the curage to believe in somthing, and yet have the hypocracy to accuse anothers beliefs of fault.

This is an incradible word we live in lol

If you dont have somthing? how can you find fault in it?
how can you find fault in christianity when you know little to nothing about it?

Sure people get all in an uproar, well this was a personal attack aginst me ,
or shadow your going haywire on this bible trip.
No im not, im sick of people who dont even know what a bible is comeing in haveing somthing to say about it, is like a third graders opinion on rocket science. its pointless.

And come on child. Do you expect people to take you seriously do you think people dont understand spanish here?
how can you even bear to speak in these forums?
When you spew nothing but complete nonsence!!

This is a quote from you.

Me cago en Dios y los 365 santos del año!
Me cago en Dios y en la Puta Virgen!
Me parece que la vena de la lengua pasa por tu culo porque hablas mucha mierda!
idiots

Did you not say this ?

Well heres the english rough translation of what he said people.

(I $#@! in God and the 365 saints of the year! I $#@! in God and in the Virgin Prostitute! It seems me that the vein of the tongue passes for your bum because you speak a lot of crap! idiots,)

that doesnt even sound intelligible.
you know what after this im through humoring your childish intelect.

And its real simple to not have to deal with me anymore in this thread,
This is an old thread i was ready to leave it ages ago, just leave my name out of posts and i wont have to come back and defend my opinion.
Any by the way killer I woudlnt Short my mother for anything in the world lol shes my mom although I dont know whats shorting somone is anyway,
Learn some spanish you didnt pick up from a cheech and chong movie here try this

La próxima vez usted quiere insultarme en español que aprendo a cómo deletrear, quizá aprende aún alguna gramática

Ps. there ARE NO ERRORS IN THE ENTIRE BIBLE OLD OR NEW TESTIMENT.
I CHALANGE YOU TO PRESENT ME WITH AN ERROR IN THE BIBLE.
and then I will show you where your just plain wrong.
For you to say there are erroes in the bible is like me picking up a book from shakesphere or a copy of moby $#@! reading one chapter at random and saying that the book made no since. If you read the bible. I mean the whole book, killer not just the title, You will see there are no errors in it anywhere.