Have You Noticed.

[Kaiser]

I understand your argument a little more clearly now Illegal Machine. Thanks for bringing us all back on topic, but I got one more comment to chip in.

There is a lot of Sony hate going around because of them constantly releasing firmware for us. But you got to understand its their product. Buying it doesn't give you complete freedom over what you can do with it. A functionaing society must have limits to its citizens freedoms. If people simply did what they want, with what they want, and when they want then there would be chaos. I can also agree with pretty much anything yaustar said in this topic. He's a logical guy. Any more discussion of our no-ISO policy can be brought here

I think PSmonkey said it best when it comes to Sony's position.

As a comercial developer I understand what sony has to do. Sony must protect it's IP and comercial developers. Yet I think every once in a while a small back door will be left for us to progress homebrew without piracy. People seem to forget that sony is the most suportive of homebrew and indy game developers out of all 3 major console companys with the ps2 linux kit, the ps1 yarouze and even funding of indy games in japan. I have no dout in my mind that sony would have eventualy released some development tools for homebrew developers to make small games for the psp.

[Illegal Machine]

understood.


Just consider these things for a moment.

Sony HAD the minidiscs, but discontinued them for some reason
then they come out with useless read only UMDs which as we have all seen havent done too well.
and they practicly bend over backwards trying to lock users out of thier god given rights.


So as I see it, sony could have saved themselves a lot of trouble even trying to play this little game of who will do what and where.. when MICROSOFT of all companies decides to adapt and offer downloadable roms over Xbox live. So sony is really in the end kind of assraping themselves in a way because they spend LOADS of money on attempting to excersise a minimum amount of control over its own customers, ( a battle in my opinion they are losing) LOADS of money on developing and distributing thier crappy failing UMDs, which in the end only results in OTHER people (the ones running the "warez" sites) cashing in on thier paranoia/dementia. ultimately this is MY psp, and I want to watch porn, or whatever on it Im entitled to. if sony was allowing downloadable roms and emulators over the wifi, Id probably have done that afew times and been happy..


so its thier loss in the end and it all comes back to thier stupid practice of trying to control your activities on your own product

[Kaiser]

-When it comes to the PSP, yes creating a read only format is a smart move, it allows them to control it easier.

-When it comes to the survival of the format it self however, creating a read only format limits the success of the UMD.

We all know of Sony's failed formats. But the PSP is still young and could succeed. Lowering the price of UMDS would be a smart move. Lets face it, UMD movies are not worth the price people are asking. If UMDS were expanded beyond a PSP then it would help the format as well. The main reason why past Sony formats failed is because Sony controlled the exclusive rights to their production. CD's and DVD's are successful because every company can get them without a middle man to buy them from. Sony has to loosen its grip on the format and allow non-Sony machines to run them.

P.S: I still don't think everybody should be able to do whatever they want with a formet. Its not a God-given right. How would Sony stop piracy then?

[Illegal Machine]

Well, they wouldnt. thats not a bad idea about lowering the price of UMD movies. considering you can barely hear them AT ALL unless you're using headphones. a DVD is about 20 bucks, tops. if you're going to have movie night with your friends and watch... say fight club, thats 5 maybe 8 people watching that one movie.. you're not going to do that all the time, every night isnt movie night, but you might take that DVD over to a friends house, OR lend it to them for a week or 2. But you can't really do any of these things with a UMD movie, so Lets put the REAL value of a UMD at about lets say...... 5 bucks? maybe even less, considering how UN-universal it really is. I wonder if they'll ever reach that level of what theyre really worth.

[Kaiser]

I'd say 15-20 bucks CDN is a good deal for a UMD movie. Right now they're around the same price as a DVD. Sadly I'm not sure if that would be profitable at least not this early as the format is new and expensive.






Now this has gone off-topic, I didn't help at all with my last couple posts either .Topic closed, if you want to keep discussing UMD's make a new topic.