Another Reason For Sony To Kill Off Homebrew

[Madonion]

You guys forget in order to play Iso's, you need to buy a bigger memory stick so sony is profeting loads on the memory sticks thx to Iso's loaders. The main reason i like to play a iso is cause i can put the cpu at 333mhz cause most games are so damn slow like midnight club!!!!!!!!! Put it on 333mhz and were good to go!

Thx Mph your the man! and some of you must see the documentary called piracy is good .
For the idiots who cant read he is gona take the bug that makes gta only run for 10mins out in next weeks release.

[Voltron]

I understand this is a sensitive subject and I love the PSP. I personally own 22 legal UMD games with 5 or 6 on my wish list for the near future. I also own the GTA UMD. The homebrew scene has evolved so much that it is one of the best reasons to own a PSP.

I am not against this release from <a href="http://mphwebsite.tuxfamily.org/index.php?page=0">MPH</a> because I believe in making the 1.5 firmware capable of just about anything. I am no expert but I don't think Sony is taking too much of a hit from us homebrew junkies. I actually strongly believe that the homebrew scene is helping Sony and its PSP. Like I said, I own 22 UMD games, a couple UMD movies, a Sony brand 1GB memory stick, and the Sony brand "Stamina" battery. Moreover, in the near future I plan on getting a 2GB memory stick pro duo, and ANOTHER "Stamina" battery, to go with a 2ND PSP. The only reason for this is because of the great homebrew scene. ISO Loaders and all because eventually I'll try to convert some of the slow loading UMD games I LEGALLY own into ISO's to run on the EXPENSIVE 2GB memory stick.

With all that said, the point is, I am just ONE PSP owner out of the millions worldwide. And if ONE PSP owner is investing so much in 2 PSP's with all the expensive SONY branded accessories to take full advantage of homebrew, then seriously, Sony is raking in more $$$. The PSP is actually growing stronger with age and not being killed by piracy and homebrew.

Sure, Pirated ISO's are illegal. But if you own the UMD game, you are within your fair use rights to back it up into ISO form for better performance or as a back up in case original breaks.

SO I'll just come out and say that I support the work of MPH for keeping 1.5 firmware alive and thriving. If you only have ILLEGAL intentions for using his work then DOOM ON YOU!

[LazerTag]

Well I'm heading out today to buy GTA:LCS. Rockstar, Sony, and the BestBuy I happen to go to can thank MPH for the purchase I make.

[donut.boy]

If MPH was to consider it UMD supported instead of ISO supported then they arent breaking any rules

but again they are doing it wrong and are killing the homebrew scene.

So for once MPH become bloody idiots and will be considered bloody idiots until they remove ISO support.

Listen man, the only way right now to play 2.0 games on 1.5 is only by ISO. You have the decrypt the prx files for it to work and you can't do that with a UMD. How in the hell is it killing the homebrew scene? This will have no effect on the homebrew scene at all. Everyone acts like sony likes or doesn't really care about the homebrew scene but if that was true, they wouldn't update their firmwares so homebrew wouldn't work on 2.01+ . You guys think sont wants people to run homebrew of their psps? Sony doesn't make money off any homebrew, and when that's the case, it's bad for them.

[zurt]

I completely agree with Voltron, lot of people say Sony loses money selling PSP's but nobody talks about the accessories that people running homebrew and ISOs buy: 1 or 2 GB memory sticks, batteries, cases,...

If people can run ISOs from PSP (legally, or ilegally, that's not my trouble) more and more people will get it, and more and more people will expend lots of money on accessories and games.

In the other hand, I'm sure that people telling MPH things like:
-MPH, Please Destroy your project.
-Mph Is Good And Bad, Wtf!!! The Other Things Are Great But This One Is Crap!!

is the same that put their hands on their head when people criticized PSIX software. If you don't like MPHs software, don't use it, nobody is telling you must, so let people do whatever they want, don't be repressive, don't try to control the world, sadly we have politicians for that question...

This is not just piracy against legallity, it is also a question of freedom. Let people live their lifes, we have more than enough with already existing laws...

Piracy never killed homebrew, industry did, and so is doing Sony again, everytime they put a new firmware on the market.

[aries2k4]

I don´t think this will make sony blink. I personally think it´s good thing. If you Buy gta but want to keep fw 1.5, isn´t this good? Like Donut-boy said, Sony makes no money from homebrew so why would they want it running on their consoles. New firmware with more protections was coming out before this loader. You can´t run isos with the e-boot loader with the gta exploit but how long do you think sony is going to let that go on before some patch comes out? Did Sony ever support homebrew for any console?

[Nono-O]

yehr that is good!!!
but when you made that the game load form
UMD:\
and from
MS0:\XXX\PRX2_0_0\.....
850MB for the GTA.iso is to big =( that is better when only the PRX2_0_0 from men.stick load and the another data from UMD

sry for my vad english =)

[Wally]

they arent idiots this guy is a coding god i hope he keeps making stuff like this by the way it stops after ten mins sure there is fix for it but it didnt come from mph

I suppose

Many pirates cant afford the original disk (thats their excuse and its quite lame too) So why even have a PSP and a 2 gigabyte memorystick then?

f9zDark: Good solution.

As for other people saying ISO loaders rule and it wont kill the scene. No it wont kill the scene but it WILL kill the UMD Game market.

Just remember that Making a program involves a lot of work and money.
Let me show you. Let me put Ubisoft in this example
All prices are estimates


1) Ubisofts name had to be bought as a company name ($10,000)
2) The company has to get a contract from sony including official SDK to compile the stuff ($100,000)
3) Ubisoft would have had to hire about 20 programmers, graphic designers, animators etc etc. ($30,000 per week) lets say they take 10 weeks at making a game so thats ($300,000)
4) They then would have to ship it off to stores worldwide ($10,000 easily) (Including UMDS, Cases, Manuals, etc)

Roughly that totals up to $450,000 and they make approx $70AU a disk

If say 100 people bought the game they would get $7000 and therefore if the game doesnt sell and pirates come in. The company doesnt make any games. So this is where sony comes in to protect these developers therefore making it harder for pirates who are making it harder for those who wish to emulate older systems.


As for my last post. It was a rather quick post as i was heading out the door.

Also when someone mentioned emulators are used for piracy well you are kinda right but emulators dont run new games and the roms nobody cares about otherwise the sites hosting them would have been pulled to pieces by now. I suppose it could be classed as abandonware.

[b8a]

I think it's funny that so many of you think that the only victim in UMD piracy is Sony. I don't know all the details, but it only makes sense that they would only see a small percentage of each disk sold. You're screwing the actual makers of the game the most when you refuse to buy a quality game, because they're the ones that see the lion share of the profit. I know there are people employed at game development firms on this board... Why aren't you guys jumping in about the effect this has on your pocket book?

I've personally been very disappointed by the selection of games available so far, and wouldn't have bought any much less downloaded them. On one hand, I think it's great that people will play a pirate version instead of buying a second-rate game because, to a certain degree, it sends the message that game makers need to try harder and that they don't deserve our money just because they say so. On the other hand, though, if a game is even semi-decent, or you play it for more than just a few settings, you need to go out and buy that game so that that game maker has the resources to continue developing better games for the future. You can't whine about the avalibility, or lack of availability, of good games if you're not willing to financially back the companies potentially bringing them to you.

I, for one, am happy about this new loader because I bought my PSP partly because of games like Ys that haven't even been released yet. I also bought my PSP because of homebrew, entirely unaware that Sony would ever try and force upgrades to play games. Without this loader (or some similar methoud), I am forced to make the decision to stick with homebrew (with it's limitless future potential) or upgrade just to play the newest games that I'd probably beat in less than a week (and then, at some point games would stop coming out and my PSP would become useless). Now I don't have to make that decision and am very happy that I can support good games as they come out.

[satoshi]

Come on, 2.0 doesn't load any ISO Loader and Sony released 2.01/2.5/2.6

2.0 you can downgrade, but 2.01 you can't.