Hirai: PS2 broke mainstream barrier, not Wii

[Malksta]

re go and enjoy your expensive games ps3 fanboy,hahaha fool

man, you really, REALLY, dumb. if anything, pirate for PC you dumb $#@!, much nicer graphics and much smoother gameplay, you are seriously trying to show off downloading Xbox 360 games?

anywho, you are already proved wrong on all your statements, if you want to continue talking like an idiot, speak over PM.

[Eviltaco64]

you are a moderator of a video games site and either you hide or you dont know the truth.i cant say anything more

What? I don't hide anything. I stated my honest opinion.

I do know for a fact that a video game company makes a lot less money off one copy bought to be pirated to the masses than it does on commercial sales. This does indeed harm a game company.

Why don't you give me some facts to back up your argument, instead? :P

[kojiro7]

What? I don't hide anything. I stated my honest opinion.

I do know for a fact that a video game company makes a lot less money off one copy bought to be pirated to the masses than it does on commercial sales. This does indeed harm a game company.

Why don't you give me some facts to back up your argument, instead? :P

ps1,ps2 were top selling right?
why ps3 doesnt follow this tradition?why xbox 360 sold more?
because they offer piracy to the masses,modchip and go
this is the unofficial truth,people who deny it are idiots.
i am tired of this conversation,you are free to believe anything you like

[Eviltaco64]

ps1,ps2 were top selling right?
why ps3 doesnt follow this tradition?why xbox 360 sold more?
because they offer piracy to the masses,modchip and go
this is the unofficial truth,people who deny it are idiots.
i am tired of this conversation,you are free to believe anything you like

The PS1 got its foot in the door in a time when Sega didnt have much software available for the Saturn and Nintendo was still fully behind the SNES. They looked to new publishers and developers and success followed. It wasn't piracy that made it successful, but the large variety of more adult games.

The PS2 was a cheap DVD player and also sold well due to the large success of the PS1.

The PS3's main problem originally was that it was too expensive. The thing was a beast, but the casual market didn't buy in. Also, Microsoft had the 360 out a year early with more exclusives and a bigger community.

I know several, and I mean SEVERAL people who own either PS1 or PS2 (a lot of them both) and didn't even know piracy and homebrew were possible. The same goes for a lot of 360 owners I know.

Just because you don't want to support developers "because it's too expensive" doesn't mean that's the core reason that consoles fail.

On a side note, the Dreamcast had piracy during it's lifespan and that definitely helped in killing it. Take note that this is also a case where piracy is as easy as burning a disc (instead of installing a modchip or even softmodding). In fact, the easier pirating is, the worse it is for a console maker.

But I feel like I'm going nowhere here. I'm the idiot because I actually buy games and provide them more money for sequels and other projects. Silly me (and all the other millions).

EDIT: One more thing. If I really was a "moderator hiding my opinion", I would've done the typical thing and gave you an infraction for promoting piracy and insulting both members and staff. :P

[kojiro7]

The PS1 got its foot in the door in a time when Sega didnt have much software available for the Saturn and Nintendo was still fully behind the SNES. They looked to new publishers and developers and success followed. It wasn't piracy that made it successful, but the large variety of more adult games.

The PS2 was a cheap DVD player and also sold well due to the large success of the PS1.

The PS3's main problem originally was that it was too expensive. The thing was a beast, but the casual market didn't buy in. Also, Microsoft had the 360 out a year early with more exclusives and a bigger community.

I know several, and I mean SEVERAL people who own either PS1 or PS2 (a lot of them both) and didn't even know piracy and homebrew were possible. The same goes for a lot of 360 owners I know.

Just because you don't want to support developers "because it's too expensive" doesn't mean that's the core reason that consoles fail.

On a side note, the Dreamcast had piracy during it's lifespan and that definitely helped in killing it. Take note that this is also a case where piracy is as easy as burning a disc (instead of installing a modchip or even softmodding). In fact, the easier pirating is, the worse it is for a console maker.

But I feel like I'm going nowhere here. I'm the idiot because I actually buy games and provide them more money for sequels and other projects. Silly me (and all the other millions).

EDIT: One more thing. If I really was a "moderator hiding my opinion", I would've done the typical thing and gave you an infraction for promoting piracy and insulting both members and staff. :P

about dreamcastiracy didnt kill it.people didnt trust sega anymore since megacd and 32x failures,so saturn and dreamcast were the tragic heroes.playstation had established its name for easy and cheap mass gaming to the people,all companies working on it.i am not promoting piracy,i am not a pirate.if companies sold the games at a reasonable price piracy wouldnt exist.but companies are greedy and dont worry they survive very good thanks to japanese people and other rich boys in the world.also without piracy gta for example it would never be so popular in the world,it would be only for few.
you can ban me if you like,i dont care,i wont change my opinion

[Eviltaco64]

about dreamcastiracy didnt kill it.people didnt trust sega anymore since megacd and 32x failures,so saturn and dreamcast were the tragic heroes.playstation had established its name for easy and cheap mass gaming to the people,all companies working on it.i am not promoting piracy,i am not a pirate.if companies sold the games at a reasonable price piracy wouldnt exist.but companies are greedy and dont worry they survive very good thanks to japanese people and other rich boys in the world.also without piracy gta for example it would never be so popular in the world,it would be only for few.
you can ban me if you like,i dont care,i wont change my opinion

Dreamcast unfortunately died for a few reasons, but piracy was indeed one of them.

Piracy would still exist even if games were sold new at $10. That's why people still download games you can get at your local Gamestop for $7.99. :P

GTA sold millions of legal copies, btw.

I'm not banning you, either (provided you don't start posting warez :P).