Sonys playing dirty pool

**shadowprophet** · May 11th, 2006, 06:27

Warez is anything that is an offical comercial release (IE, stolen or pirated content )

Warez is bad, For many reasons,
It harms the homebrew scene, Buy causing us grief from comercial developers and enought of that grief will get even an honest site like Dcemu shut down,

**vettacossx** · May 11th, 2006, 06:27

right so get your epsxe plugin updates now! and all the bios avilable everything you MAY need in the futer

**fpcreator2000** · May 11th, 2006, 06:41

Just because Sony releases an official emu doesn't mean that unofficial emus are illegal, except those using official SDKs 'cause you're using code libraries owned by someone else without proper licencing. So if emus are made dev kits not stolen from sony or contains material owned by a specific rights holder, it is perfectly fine. But I don't know the laws of europe so I couldn't tell you. Example, Bleem for Dreamcast was not illegal, the group didn't have the funds to compete with sony -//end Part I

**neoalucard** · May 11th, 2006, 06:47

even when sony releases their official emu, that doesn't change anything... to be very specific, even epsxe is illegal to have unless you own a "legitimate" bio that you flashed yourself unto your computer...

For those of you that downloaded the psx bios on the internet or have a psx emulator that had bios already included.... news flash... you already broke the law.

Therefore.... why should other non-sony released emulators become warez? After all, all it is , is a program designed to replicate another program/system/application, the emulator has always been legal... because you couldn't technically run the program without a legitimate bio...

having the emulator , and having it work via a downloaded bio... is where the legality is in question...
if you didn't flash the bio yourself.... it is indeed illegal... but lets face it people... with knowing that... how many of you flashed your own bio... or better yet... dumped your own roms for other emulators... ( we all know how hard it was to find those illegal bios/roms ) -insert sarcasim here- so then i think we have nothing to worry about even if a psx emu was "considered" illegal, just for the sake of the program excluding the bio... i think most of us here wouldn't have too much of a problem acquiring it...

**drquack02** · May 11th, 2006, 06:55

I believe this would make Sony PS1 emulators for the PSP illegal...even that is a strech.

Everyone can always say, this is made for homebrew, and generally thats the end of it.

I doubt any difference to come from this.

**fpcreator2000** · May 11th, 2006, 06:57

-// continued (PSP memory limitations on how much I can type.//-

sony in court so the only compromise was to stop production, update, and distribution of the emu, or keep at it at the courts. Of course, Sony has deeper pockets. But the emu was never deemed illegal. Plus homebrew is only illegal if you are using material that doesn't belong and/or was not licenced to you. Warez would be distributing a program without proper licencing like Sony's firmware updates, that's warez, but Sony wants you to update.

**cloud_952** · May 11th, 2006, 07:22

o_o "warez" is when you make an illegal copy of a copyrighted program. Emulators are not using Sony's code base, and are NO MORE legal now than they will be when Sony releases their own emulator.

So, I really don't see what the point in this discussion is. o_O

**Voltron** · May 11th, 2006, 07:23

I don't think its that big of a deal. It will not be so easy to get a website shut down.

I am happy that Sony is working on a PSOne Emu for the PSP. This can be looked at as the ultimate showdown. Sony's PS1 EMU vs. Homebrew PS1 EMU. Who can develop the best PSOne EMU.

Sure Sony can stand to make some $$$ of their venture. But there are quite a few EXTREMELY talented coders who contribute the the PSP hombrew community. And I think it would be good motivation if Sony started releasing their own branded homebrew. Only it would not be homebrew. It would be SOny brew or whatever you want to call it.

Actually, the more I think of it. It would make the most sense for Sony to make the PSOne EMU playable on ALL firmware versions. I have no intentions on upgrading. But I would spend $5.00 - $10.00 on quite a few PSOne games. If Sony could get the file sizes trimmed with maybe a proprietary compression technology so that many games could fit on to a 1 or 2 Gig PRO Duo, I'd buy a whole bunch of PS1 ROMS.

But if the Sony PS1 EMU only works on Firmware 2.70 or 3.00 or whatever, and someone else is able to code a practical PS1 EMU, I won't pay for the PS1 ROMS and I'll make my own backups of the games I already own.

Anyway, I don't think we have anything to worry about.

**nielsss** · May 11th, 2006, 08:04

i think that this is a way to make us upgrade to higher firmware. i mean when that emu comes will all have to upgrade if we want to use it sony will not make it work under 2.70

**Larry** · May 11th, 2006, 08:26

Sony isnt making an actual emulator. persay, if they did, pirating psone games would be so easy on all firmwares, they wouldnt make any money,

no, they are porting the games over in a sense. there IS an emulator BUT! its part of the game itself and not a 3rd program.

This will not make psone emu's for the psp wares.

So the psp emulates the psone while playing those games,. but the psp doesnt run an emulator and then the game.

The concepts are different.
Double check the press conference. ^_^ thats how i figured this out.