PSone emu-getting the roms!

[Cap'n 1time]

I hate them. sony knocked up my sister.

[Kaiser]

Unlike Nintendo they are more a reasonable company out to make money, yes. but not as gready as sony and i think people wish sony were less about the money and more about the consumer. =

Now I love Nintendo games, don't get me wrong, but that post brings another thing that bugs me. All companies are out to make money. Nintendo trys to maximize its profits even more then Sony. Its part of the reason they keep they're technology so simple. It has very little to do with "keeping games at their roots" but rather about making more money off their consoles. People tend to think Nintendo makes games from the goodness of their hearts. No, they make games to make money like everyone else. Period. Money is what seperates homebrew and commercial gaming.

[Galiano]

Now I love Nintendo games, don't get me wrong, but that post brings another thing that bugs me. All companies are out to make money. Nintendo trys to maximize its profits even more then Sony. Its part of the reason they keep they're technology so simple. It has very little to do with "keeping games at their roots" but rather about making more money off their consoles. People tend to think Nintendo makes games from the goodness of their hearts. No, they make games to make money like everyone else. Period. Money is what seperates homebrew and commercial gaming.

Absolutely spot on kaiser. i see people complaning about buying ps1 games twice, with the wii out soon and its ability to play the nintendo back catalogue do these same people believe nintendo will be giving the roms away free?
No they won't be free, we will pay for them and if you previously owned a SNES and bought say mario 3 ( 39.99 ) you then could have bought it again for GBA ( 29.99 ) and then will be paying for it again on Wii.

Also at least sony try to innovate and create software for everyone, stuff like singstar, buzz, eyetoy and guitar hero whereas nintendo seem to re-release the same titles over and over with very little difference to them.
Ok all games companies are guilty of that but seriously how many times are they gonna release near identical sequels ( f-zero, metroid prime, pilotwings ,wave race the list goes on)?

[robotdevil]

*agrees* Sony spends 2-3 times as much in R&D as Nintendo, and approx 10x as much as Microsoft (who just uses existing hardware). Also, Sony incurs higher production costs due to the equipment their trying to achieve. The PSP screen for example, is a marvelous thing. The resolution for the size is AMAZING! And very expensive to produce. Sony spent the money to develop an in-house GFX processor, whereas Nintendo and Microsoft went to ATI and nVidia to have them developed.

And for those of you that think Nintendo never charged you twice for games, I point you to the "classic" series for GBA. Sony states PS1 games for $10-$15, Nintendo CHARGES $15-$20 for NES games! But nobody complains. Think about it.

[Cooe14]

Man, there is a lot of Sony hate in the Sony forums.

I fricken hate sony the only reason I have a PSP is because of the homebrew. I am a diehard Nintendo fanboy at heart, though also kinda like Microsoft a little.

[V3N0M]

Kaiser did you read my post all the way? I said Nintendo was a company and yes there out to make money like everyone else. I have just noticed a the company was a little less greedy than sony and a little more about the consumer. Now when i say that i ment a little not alot a little. All company do what they do best make money lol thats what companys do lol.

[cloud_952]

Sony spent the money to develop an in-house GFX processor, whereas Nintendo and Microsoft went to ATI and nVidia to have them developed.

... Sony's GPU is developed by nVidia. =p It's an RSX GPU made for Sony.

Just seems like it's important to point that out. As for the rest of the argument? I'm not going to touch it. Let everyone else battle it out.

[Kaiser]

Kaiser did you read my post all the way? I said Nintendo was a company and yes there out to make money like everyone else. I have just noticed a the company was a little less greedy than sony and a little more about the consumer. Now when i say that i ment a little not alot a little. All company do what they do best make money lol thats what companys do lol.

I read your post. I started arguing directly at you but went on a little rant which I apoligize for. I'll try too make my arguments more direct.

Nintendo is in no way "less greedy" either. Sony puts out a lot of stuff, I know. Some of high quality and some rather lackluster stuff. But Sony makes a much smaller profit off its products then Nintendo does. In fact Nintendo makes very healthy profits since its not as much of a risk-taker as Sony. Many people think that the Wii is extremely risky and creative of Nintendo. While I won't argue the innovation behind it I will argue that Nintendo is only making stuff that is safe and will be well recieved to their niche market. Nintendo has no plans of expanding their market share any time soon as they're are making great profits as it is (Check out Nintendo's stock prices compared to Sony's and Microsoft).

Anyway back to the topic at hand. I dislike how people constantly bash Sony and Microsoft for being money hungry and not caring about "true" gamers. Since its clear with a little research that Nintendo is just as much after the green as others and despite what people say there is a degree of professionalism and respect for games within Sony and Microsoft. They have there own Shigeru Myamoto's who are doing it for the love of game design but as a company they all strive for profit. You also cannot assume Sony and Microsoft don't care about the consumer. The consumer is king in capitalism. Sony holds the largest portion of the market because it meets the wants of the consumers more then any other company. There is no arguing behind that because its simple economics.

... Sony's GPU is developed by nVidia. =p It's an RSX GPU made for Sony.

Just seems like it's important to point that out. As for the rest of the argument? I'm not going to touch it. Let everyone else battle it out.

I think he is reffering to the Cell proccesor and not the GPU. Which unlike Nintendo's and Microsoft's proccesors, was not just a modified version of a computer procceser already in existence at the time of development. While the Sony did have help with the Cell's creation a lot of credit should be given to Sony for bankrolling and developing new technology. Which can be beneficial to more then just Sony.

I fricken hate sony the only reason I have a PSP is because of the homebrew. I am a diehard Nintendo fanboy at heart, though also kinda like Microsoft a little.

Why do you hate Sony? I'm curious. Nintendo are probably the most anti-homebrew company in existence.

I also apologize if I come off as an ass in any part of this post. I actually got to thank you Jman, this is the best discussion I've seen in months.

[Galiano]

*agrees* could'nt agree more kaiser, all of the big game companys are after our hard earned cash. As long as they keep producing games of good quality, I'll buy games for all three consoles. They all have great games so i personally don't get all this i hate whoever, these people miss out on some fantastic software just because of their dislike of a certain brand.

I don't think you come across as an ass kaiser you tell it how it is!

[stotheamuel]

kaiser is exactly right..... nintendo doesnt lose money on consoles because it trys and stays safe... sony trys to give the consumer everything it ever wanted and relys on games for money

ps cooe14... i honestly doubt that is why you origionaly got it