Sony: We want PS3 to be like the ipod

**deftonesmx17** · June 15th, 2006, 20:42

Originally Posted by Apoklepz

But I've never had problems with my PS2.

And do you use the PS2 stand to have it on its side? $ony designed the PS2 to work best under that condition. With my third PS2, it was on its side from day one and it lasted much longer than my other two.

**horacehogarth** · June 16th, 2006, 10:09

Originally Posted by deftonesmx17

Good for you that your day one PS2 still works, but its not the case for most. I personally know only one person who is still on their first PS2, one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Playstation_2 Read under Technical Issues.........hmmmm not such a myth is it.

As for your comment of "If there were that many PS2's breaking down then people wouldn't buy them." Everyone already knows windows is a resource hog that slows their computer down so why does everyone keep using it. Becasue they don't really have a choice because if they want to use certain apps/games they need to use windows. So likewise, I went through 3 PS2's(aka kept buying them) because if I wanted to play certain games I liked............I didnt have a choice.

Well if we're judging this on personal experiences i don't know anybody who has had to return a PS2, about 12 people i know all bought PS2's within the first few months of them being on sale and none have been returned with faults. Same goes for XBoxs, though one did have a problem with the Hard Drive. It's the same old story, people only ever comment when something goes wrong.. when you're dealing in millions of units then of course there's a percentage that have problems but saying the PS2 sales figures are over inflated because of faulty units being replaced is just plain rubbish.

**deftonesmx17** · June 16th, 2006, 14:25

Lets do quick simple logic here. $ony has had two class action lawsuits against them for faulty lasers (aka the "disc read error") and other . Because of the first class action lawsuit, the court gave $ony the choice between two descions. Pay the requested fines and damages or offer free repair and/or replacements at their discretion. Hmmmm, this certainly looks like much more than just my personal experience, but you seem like the type that will still argue.........no matter how many facts I place in front of you

**Accordion** · June 16th, 2006, 15:52

topic

**doof69** · June 17th, 2006, 13:07

off the topic a bit. The main reason I am going to buy a ps3 is because it capability to play blue-ray movies. A blue-ray movie player is going to be around the same price as the ps3 anyway. Then finally i can get true HD movies on my projector. i.e 1080i

**horacehogarth** · June 19th, 2006, 13:31

Originally Posted by deftonesmx17

Lets do quick simple logic here. $ony has had two class action lawsuits against them for faulty lasers (aka the "disc read error") and other . Because of the first class action lawsuit, the court gave $ony the choice between two descions. Pay the requested fines and damages or offer free repair and/or replacements at their discretion. Hmmmm, this certainly looks like much more than just my personal experience, but you seem like the type that will still argue.........no matter how many facts I place in front of you

No argument here sunshine, just waiting for you to back up your points. Give me some real facts, how many PS2's have been sold as replacements? You can't so all you're doing is guessing and spreading speculation. Lets say everything you say is right, so out of 100m PS2s sold even if a ridiculously high figure of 10% have been replacements for faulty units then they've still sold 90m which makes the PS2 the most popular console by a huge margin.

As for the original topic, i'll get a PS3 when it's first price cut happens.. same with the 360, im sure MS will drop it's price for this xmas.

**deftonesmx17** · June 19th, 2006, 13:53

Originally Posted by horacehogarth

No argument here sunshine, just waiting for you to back up your points. Give me some real facts, how many PS2's have been sold as replacements? You can't so all you're doing is guessing and spreading speculation. Lets say everything you say is right, so out of 100m PS2s sold even if a ridiculously high figure of 10% have been replacements for faulty units then they've still sold 90m which makes the PS2 the most popular console by a huge margin.

I already gave you the facts. The facts about the faulty lasers in the PS2's(which you said was a myth). The fact that it became such a problem that the courts ruled against $ony. Meaning it wasnt in the average 3-5% of all units might be faulty range.

Oh and just to add, 100 million shipped, not sold. Everytime you read about numbers of $ony units, its always in shipped and not sold. Thus meaning a replacement console that was shipped by $ony to a person does add to that number. So you have each and every (free of charge) replacement unit and ones people have bought themselves add to that over 100 million units shipped number.

Just some extra FYI; not sure if you grasped this or not, but I was never denying that the PS2 was the most popular console in history(it was so great that I even bought three).............unlike how you are completely denying that it ever had known hardware problems

Back to the original topic, they are right though, people would buy a box of $#@! if it had an apple (or $ony) logo on the side.

**Accordion** · June 19th, 2006, 14:14

Topic!

**doof69** · June 20th, 2006, 06:37

Are you saying that sony would ship 100 million units for no reason? "O yeah, lets ship 100 million units because they are not getting sold" For a company to ship 100 million units i think they are doing allright in selling their console