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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumir
    Those that ignored the warning and ended up with bricked psp's should be angry at themselves for trying somthing so new that hasent had a life span of 1 week...

    Be smart people... if it was official then protest flame and sue, other whys deal with it, your fault.

    This is true. It's kinda like the "protect yourself at all times" rule in boxing. If you do something to your PSP and brick it, than it is ultimately your own fault.
    But that doesn't change the fact that this douch bag intentionally lied to his fellow homebrew peers and (indirectly) caused mass destruction.
    He betrayed the entire homebrew community. My PSP was not bricked. (I already have 1.5) But I'm sure that this guy is not very popular in the hb scene. He may want to update his virus protection LOL.

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    Hi All,

    This is my first post here. I've been watching the scene over the last couple of months and never really gotten involved because of my inexperience with the PSP (I am not a coder and I've only had a PSP for the last couple of months) and I don't really say anything unless I have something I think is worth saying. Given the ball slapping I've seen on this whole thing, I felt like getting on my soap box for once.

    First of all, I think everyone needs to be a bit more grateful for the work guys like fanjita, hitchhkr and whoever else develops this stuff. Personally, I wouldn't even know where to BEGIN to do anything like this. Remember, they don't have to release ANY of this stuff to us if they don't want to. It could easily have been a closed community where we would all have our PSP's doing the same thing they did when it came of the box we bought it in. This kind of "enhancing" is trial and error. If it wasn't, then Sony would have included all of these features we wanted from the beginning.

    These guys do the magic yet we all want the benefits and none of the work involved. If the exploits work, great, we're happy, we'll sing the praises of the guys who made it and there is no poverty, famine and meaningless killing going on in the world. If it doesn't work, it's not so rosy and blame, flame and shame ensue saying "This is crap", "Your app is crap", "this doesn't work", "my PSP is bricked" etc.

    People need to take more heed to the fact that you are responsible for your OWN PSP (your OWN PSP) The guys who develop the exploits aren't. YOU chose what you do to your PSP, they don't. What works for some people might not for others. If you run something and it kills your PSP, don't ask "who wrote the thing that killed my PSP", ask "who RAN the thing that killed my PSP". Dark_Alex didn't. Fanjita didn't. YOU DID. You know the risks of what you do. If you didn't, you should have checked the risks before doing it. People who deliberately develop malicious stuff to kill PSP's are wrong, of that there is no doubt but ultimately, YOU are responsible for your belongings and what you do with them.

    If you DON'T want to brick your PSP, the answer is simple. Don't do anything to it. This will work great as I'm sure the tens of thousands of people that aren't interested in this kind of stuff will testify to. If you do want all the added functionality, hacks, cracks, apps and exploits that these guys work hard on developing, you run it at your OWN risk and most developers add the disclaimer saying "Try at your own risk" or "We do not take responsibilty for any damage caused by the running of this".

    Most of all, I think it's unfair of ANY of us to critise what fanjita, hitchhkr or anyone else does. If you think you can do better, go ahead and prove yourself. If it works, great, toast your magnificence and either keep your discovery to yourself and sit like Smeagol with your "precious" or share it with others for them to TRY. What you do is YOUR decision. If like me and you can't code a damn and wouldn't know where to even BEGIN to make and exploit, app or hack for ANYTHING, be silent and grateful that the few who DO know release anything to us.

    Personally, I have a PSP running 2.6 and I REALLY hope that these guys can make it happen because I would also like to share in the fun that Kernal mode/Exploited firmware offers. If they do it great. If it works, even better, thank you and thank you for sharing. If it kills my PSP, damn it! "I" KILLED MY PSP by doing something I shouldn't have knowing that it could kill it.

    Ultimately, the choice is your OWN. Feel free to flame me if you think I'm wrong. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. This is mine.

    End of rant.

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    Default Omg Best 1rst Post Ever Bro!! Word....besides There Light At The End Of The Tunnel ;)

    Why Not Do Like Sniper Suggested Omg Just Use A Mod Chip To Un-brick Psp"s That Are Bricked
    And Also Use A Psp With Modchip To Test

    If Your Psp Is Bricked Buy A Mod_chip To Unbrick It....its Still Cheaper To Buy A Modchip And Pay Radioshack To Install It Than To Pay For Another Psp!!!!!

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    Great article, thanks for clearing the mud.

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    Seconded tavueni.

    While PSPXnax is a lying sack of $#@!, it's unfair to put all the blame on him, when he didn't force anybody to use the code. But at the same time, it goes without saying that he isn't exactly justified.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tavueni
    Hi All,

    This is my first post here. I've been watching the scene over the last couple of months and never really gotten involved because of my inexperience with the PSP (I am not a coder and I've only had a PSP for the last couple of months) and I don't really say anything unless I have something I think is worth saying. Given the ball slapping I've seen on this whole thing, I felt like getting on my soap box for once.

    First of all, I think everyone needs to be a bit more grateful for the work guys like fanjita, hitchhkr and whoever else develops this stuff. Personally, I wouldn't even know where to BEGIN to do anything like this. Remember, they don't have to release ANY of this stuff to us if they don't want to. It could easily have been a closed community where we would all have our PSP's doing the same thing they did when it came of the box we bought it in. This kind of "enhancing" is trial and error. If it wasn't, then Sony would have included all of these features we wanted from the beginning.

    These guys do the magic yet we all want the benefits and none of the work involved. If the exploits work, great, we're happy, we'll sing the praises of the guys who made it and there is no poverty, famine and meaningless killing going on in the world. If it doesn't work, it's not so rosy and blame, flame and shame ensue saying "This is crap", "Your app is crap", "this doesn't work", "my PSP is bricked" etc.

    People need to take more heed to the fact that you are responsible for your OWN PSP (your OWN PSP) The guys who develop the exploits aren't. YOU chose what you do to your PSP, they don't. What works for some people might not for others. If you run something and it kills your PSP, don't ask "who wrote the thing that killed my PSP", ask "who RAN the thing that killed my PSP". Dark_Alex didn't. Fanjita didn't. YOU DID. You know the risks of what you do. If you didn't, you should have checked the risks before doing it. People who deliberately develop malicious stuff to kill PSP's are wrong, of that there is no doubt but ultimately, YOU are responsible for your belongings and what you do with them.

    If you DON'T want to brick your PSP, the answer is simple. Don't do anything to it. This will work great as I'm sure the tens of thousands of people that aren't interested in this kind of stuff will testify to. If you do want all the added functionality, hacks, cracks, apps and exploits that these guys work hard on developing, you run it at your OWN risk and most developers add the disclaimer saying "Try at your own risk" or "We do not take responsibilty for any damage caused by the running of this".

    Most of all, I think it's unfair of ANY of us to critise what fanjita, hitchhkr or anyone else does. If you think you can do better, go ahead and prove yourself. If it works, great, toast your magnificence and either keep your discovery to yourself and sit like Smeagol with your "precious" or share it with others for them to TRY. What you do is YOUR decision. If like me and you can't code a damn and wouldn't know where to even BEGIN to make and exploit, app or hack for ANYTHING, be silent and grateful that the few who DO know release anything to us.

    Personally, I have a PSP running 2.6 and I REALLY hope that these guys can make it happen because I would also like to share in the fun that Kernal mode/Exploited firmware offers. If they do it great. If it works, even better, thank you and thank you for sharing. If it kills my PSP, damn it! "I" KILLED MY PSP by doing something I shouldn't have knowing that it could kill it.

    Ultimately, the choice is your OWN. Feel free to flame me if you think I'm wrong. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. This is mine.

    End of rant.

    May I applaud a really great and well thought out first post. Very nice.

    I feel one thing is left out and though. I do totally agree that what "I" run on my PSP is totally up to me. "I" in fact may run something that bricks it. And no one to blame but me.

    However, as Mr. Shizzy pointed out, the guy whom was the initial guinea pig (his own choosing) was wrong on his position to flat out lie and say "it worked" like he did. He didn't save other PSP's like his statement claims he did, he caused some users grief whom may have decided to wait for a newer version. Simply put, if he was not willing to do his part he should have said so and moved on. I think instead he lied and hoped for the best figuring he would go down in "history" as "the guy whom was willing to give it a go first" and then perform the downgrade himself. So again it's not even that guys fault, but to cloud over that he didn't even test it initially prior to it being released really screwed a lot of peeps.

    Anyway, good luck to those programmers and keep the faith. Some of us do in fact know whose fault it is when things go awry, ours not yours.

    Viva La PSP 1.5!

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    Quote Originally Posted by csd-san
    Seconded tavueni.

    While PSPXnax is a lying sack of $#@!, it's unfair to put all the blame on him, when he didn't force anybody to use the code. But at the same time, it goes without saying that he isn't exactly justified.
    touche hes sudnt get all the blame but he sud a majority of it by saying the downdater worked and also people with bricked psp's sould have RESERCHED downgrading befor you rush into it if a downgrader is every released and i decide to try it imma research for a few days so i know exactly how to do it and ill probly ask somone to walk me through it

    and very nice first post tavueni and dood i to was very inexperienced when i found the site to but ask questions if u ever need help and also use search to bc its probly got wut your looking for and welcome to DCEMU

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    i too felt unclear about a lot of things. thanks for clearing it all up

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    I can't believe so many people were in such a rush to try this downdater.
    I mean, if they waited just one week, several people would have the UP modchip. (me included )
    We could have tested it without any consequences... but never mind...

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    people got caught up on the excitement of a new exploit then a possible downgrader just 2 days later. then that moron that claimed it worked...i can see why so many people tried it. the modchip is going to cost money so i imagine if people think they can do this stuff without the chip that would be better.

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