Definative firmware guide

[Kaiser]

Wait this is just a copy and paste from Sony'a website?! This should have never of made it on the front page then.

Mat_Dizzy there is no justification for PSP piracy (as b8a pointed out). Your just making yourself look bad by arguing on that side of the spectrum.

[BL4Z3D247]

Wait this is just a copy and paste from Sony'a website?! This should have never of made it on the front page then.

Mat_Dizzy there is no justification for PSP piracy (as b8a pointed out). Your just making yourself look bad by arguing on that side of the spectrum.

tell em Kaiser

[mog]

To add to the list of fw 1.00 features, I found something on an old thread at PSP-Hacks forum.

1.0
Good things: allows to let you run homebrew easily.
bad things: the battery was drained quick by a 1.0 psp becuase the proccesor was on 333 mhz all the time.
...
1.5
Good things: also allows you to run homebrew using kxploit and the battery live was increased.

I never knew that before... but he doesn't seem to have any doubts to the oposite.
So that might be another difference between fw 1.00 and 1.50.

Still, I would have thought sony would have mentioned it in their 1.50 update features list so I'm not so sure.

***UPDATE***
Nope, this isn't true.

How do I know?
Because I just wasted the last 15 minutes making a little PSP program in C that just gets CPU clock frequency.

I used sceGetCpuClockFrequency() function to get current CPU frequency.

After switching on my 1.00 PSP and doing nothing else but running my program, it returns 222Mhz as my CPU clock frequency.

[**1_Man_Matrix**]

mat_dizzy, benh, you both come off as a couple of gits.

FIRSTLY: ISO piracy hurts everyone, not just Sony, so there's no good justification for it. If you think there is, not only are you an utter moron, but this site is not for you. Pro-ISO posts are heavily frowned upon, and if continued will cause you to be banned. If you feel like tempting this, then do everyone a favor, cut out the middle man, and just stop posting immediately.

SECONDLY: This is a useless thread. All benh has done is copy and pasted this text from Sony's official website, so a link to those pages would've been much preferable to this long-arsed, word-for-word regurgitated information clogging of up the front page. Besides, PSP-News has a dedication to citing it's sources, and this post boldly violates that cardinal rule.

THIRDLY: to pepegomez: as this was just copy and pasted from Sony's website's info on the history of firmware update details, benh cannot add the info on 1.00 -- it was never an update. However, to answer your question, 1.00 was severally limited. From what I've read, it only came with Japanese and English as selectable system languages. The one and only major advantage to 1.00 (and you wouldn't find this on an official Sony list even if it was available) was it's ability to natively run unsigned code without any hacks or tricks. There was absolutely nothing preventing homemade code from being run on those systems, so it is the hands-down "purest" environment for PSP homebrew. As to why people are still on it: everyone's got their own reasons. Staying at 1.00 certainly has it's drawbacks since anything that can be run on 1.00 can be run on 1.50 (the reverse isn't always true however), but there's deffinately something special about knowing you have a 1.00 system. Currently, there aren't many people who can say that, even fewer still that can claim to have a factory virgin model.

You are a moron. Nuff' Said.

[Kaiser]

You are a moron. Nuff' Said

..and you have just been given a four point warning.

enjoy

[**1_Man_Matrix**]

..and you have just been given a four point warning.

enjoy

What for?

You don't think he could have gone about that better?
1. If anyone ever mentions ISO's, I respond with a friendly reminder of the rules... His was far from friendly.
2. He insinuated that they are 'morons', as did I about him, yet I'm getting warned?
3. At no point did I disagree with anything he said, In fact he's absolutely right in just about every regard. Just could have gone about things better. I probably could have too, but meh... He deserves to get shut down, might let him understand how it feels to talk to others like crap.

The reason I come here is because I believe everyone get's their say, and anyone needing somewhere to turn for guidance, has that help always their for them. No one deserves to be treated with blatant disrespect (Unless they've earned it). He was extremely rude to Benh, who was just trying to provide information for the rest of us. Seems this place isn't as fair and just as it seems at first.

Rant over. Enjoy...

[Kaiser]

What for?
You don't think he could have gone about that better?

Probably, but at least he was offering an argument.

1. If anyone ever mentions ISO's, I respond with a friendly reminder of the rules... His was far from friendly.

He was obviously trying to prove the negative impact of piracy and how futile it is to try and argue for it. He wasn't acting like one of those over-zealous members who simply leave a "go die pirate" comment.

2. He insinuated that they are 'morons', as did I about him, yet I'm getting warned?

He was offering an argument and despite it coming off a little harsh it was better then your cheap shot. You seriously believe your statement was called for?

3. At no point did I disagree with anything he said, In fact he's absolutely right in just about every regard. Just could have gone about things better. I probably could have too, but meh... He deserves to get shut down, might let him understand how it feels to talk to others like crap.

Shut Down?

Please, the only one who came off looking bad after that post was yourself. Your right in saying you never disagreed, but that has more to do with you leaving any opinion you may have behind in favour of insulting someone.

The reason I come here is because I believe everyone get's their say, and anyone needing somewhere to turn for guidance, has that help always their for them. No one deserves to be treated with blatant disrespect (Unless they've earned it). He was extremely rude to Benh, who was just trying to provide information for the rest of us. Seems this place isn't as fair and just as it seems at first.

Rant over. Enjoy...

Everyone is entitled to an opinon. He never acted harshly until someone brought piracy into this discussion.

Simply put, your cheap insult was not needed in this thread.

[**1_Man_Matrix**]

Probably, but at least he was offering an argument.



He was obviously trying to prove the negative impact of piracy and how futile it is to try and argue for it. He wasn't acting like one of those over-zealous members who simply leave a "go die pirate" comment.



He was offering an argument and despite it coming off a little harsh it was better then your cheap shot. You seriously believe your statement was called for?



Shut Down?

Please, the only one who came off looking bad after that post was yourself. Your right in saying you never disagreed, but that has more to do with you leaving any opinion you may have behind in favour of insulting someone.



Everyone is entitled to an opinon. He never acted harshly until someone brought piracy into this discussion.

Simply put, your cheap insult was not needed in this thread.

Enjoy your glorious victory

[b8a]

You're right, I was harsh. Maybe needlessly so, but I can only put up with so many of these kids coming around here claiming to be instant experts before I start to loose it just a little bit. I don't know how old Benh is, but I think he's been milking his "coder" tag far too much, and this thread was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. I don't have anything against him personally, he's probably a great guy (and from my exchanges, both public and private, with mat_dizzy, he sounds like he is too), and the original intent of my post was just to be constructive criticism.

This was front page news, and the very third post was pro ISO, and the very next post was the original poster, a venerated "coder" even, consenting that there may be some legitimate reason for ISO piracy.

Now, DCEMU's stance on piracy is well stated, clear, and everyone knows it, so how else do you describe someone who ignores all those clear signs? Not only that, but I did not call these guys in particular morons. I called people that believe there are legitimate reasons for pirating freely available commercial goods morons. Not much of a difference, granted, but there's still a significant difference there. Given the context, my usage of the word "moron" was far more justified than yours was. You admitted that:

In fact he's absolutely right in just about every regard.

so I'm at a loss as to how that constitutes a moron. My usage may not have been PC, but it was at least meant with some good intent, while yours was just plain inexplicably vicious.

I know what it feels like to be talked to like cr*p, thank you very much. I don't need that lesson. On this very forum alone, there are far harsher people than me. I really couldn't care less how much people talk down to me. No self-confidant person does. In fact, if I made a tremendous blunder like this, I would expect someone to set me straight.

This is one of the best sites around, and that is thanks to our great community where everyone gets a say. Neither did I attempt to, nor did I take any steps to deny anyone that privlege. Fact is, if this wouldn't have been on the front page, even with the ISO talk, I wouldn't have even commented on it at all. There are simply a basic set of standards that the Staff have talked about having for front page newsposts, and this violated several of those. If that's all there was to it, I would've merely left a post urging Benh to cite his obvious source. But then I saw the pro-ISO posts and I lost it. On top of that, Benh, claiming to present us with a "definitive guide", failed to answer basic questions about 1.00. I admit my reaction was extreme, but it was a snowball of frustration. Whether Wraggster or any of the rest of the Staff actually hold the news posts to a higher standard then the rest of the forums, I guess I do, and when I can not only call BS on an entire news thread, but proove it on top of that, I think that's ample justification for getting indignant.

Besides, if you truly believe in everyone getting their fair say, then you're a hypocrite for criticising me. If you're worried about:

this place isn't as fair and just as it seems at first

then please, take a look in the mirror. After Benh admitted that he had copied the info (after he had denied that twice, remember) I ultimately cooled down and helped to fill in the missing gap in his "deffinative guide". I would say that, when all was said and done, we all got our say and that we collectively provided

somewhere to turn for guidance

Forgive me if I lost it and went off on these guys. I don't see what your problem is, but all of the parties involved have made peace and moved on.

[lebber]

doubel lol