Is Piracy a Big Factor in Todays Consoles

[DPyro]

I don't think piracy can be problematic. Totally the oposite. Since I can't rent any games at my country, when a game comes out either I REALLY know that the game ain't gonna dissapoint me or I download a pirated version of it just to check it out.
This way is the safest to know what to buy and where not to waste money.
Unfortunately, I've made lots of mistakes in terms of buys. The last one was Monster Hunter for the psp. Imo the game is really mediocre. Tested it and threw it into the box again. Such situations can be easily avoided.

Your from Portugal?

[FullGore]

Lol yep. Figures, right?

[damienarcangel]

I work for a loss prevention department at a retail store and while that has nothing to do with piracy, I would like to offer my input on this situation because it deals with the same type of people that I deal with every day. For this thread I'll call these people "assclowns." I think there is a certain type of person(or maybe its a personality trait), could be white, could be asian, could be black, could be of any age or finanical status. I think these type of people are what are the "big factor" in consoles, not the piracy itself. I for one use my PSP to play Snes, Genesis, Nes games pretty much exclusively. Yah I have a few PSP games, but I would never use it to copy a PSP ISO and play it for free. An assclown would. The reason even use it for emulation is because most of the games for older consoles are not exactly available for sell. Yeah maybe I could go on Ebay and buy a copy of Chrono Trigger for $80 but is that really feasible, even in Sony or Nintendo's eyes? Probably not. I believe piracy is a factor in some cases and in some cases its not. Am I hurting Sony's case by playing Final Fantasy VI on my Snes emulator? Probably not. But is some assclown hurting Sony's case by downloading a copy of Grand Theft Auto LCS and playing it without buying the game? Of course. These assclowns are what we should be worried about being a "big factor" not generalize every person who uses their PSP for something beside playing "Sony-made" software on it. It really works hand-in-hand with alot of the problems us "non-terds" face. I mean think about car insurance. You pay more in car insurance because a group of assclowns have a huge business of purposely causing accidents to line their pockets. Polo shirt? You pay $80 for a Polo shirt instead of $35 because assclowns come into a store and steal half the shirts that Polo makes. So just by making 100 shirts, they probably lose 35-50 of them because some assclown decides he doesn't want to pay for them. So in turn you pay more. In sum I think big companies need to not generalize and focus on these assclowns who are actually costing them money and not force everday people to pay more money for actions that they did not take. But thats just my 2 cents.

[SSaxdude]

There are people who are starving in third world countries yet big companies are complaining that they are losing money. People (like the RIAA) are suing people over piracy when we need to do justice to the real criminals (murders, rapists.)
The world we live in.

[damienarcangel]

Oh yeah. I totally agree with you there. As far as the law goes, they should focus on crimes such as murder and $#@!. I'm saying these companies should hire people like myself who can prosecute people commiting crimes against them such as piracy. How much would it cost for Sony to hire a team of people to go on the internet. Goto google.com and find sites or programs that offer ISOs or movies and take them out of action? Probably close to nothing in comparison to the money they lose from piracy. But they shouldn't be so anal as to try to take out sites that offer roms that companies can no longer make money off of. I mean honestly how much money is Nintendo going to make off of a sale of a Original NES Super Mario Brothers cartridge? Nothing. What I'm trying to get to is- Is it still piracy if a company isn't making money off of an item anymore?

[Ichijoe]

I mean honestly how much money is Nintendo going to make off of a sale of a Original NES Super Mario Brothers cartridge? Nothing.

I'm sure Nintendo would disagree with you on that. Granted thay probably will never see a dime from oBay.

But, what about there planed 'Live!' System that will let you in an iTunes-esq manner let you D/L and play SNES, Sega & PC-Engine (e.g. Turbografix), on there Wii Console?!? Seems like S0NY™ are not the only Ones' wishing to make some Dosh from emulating there past systems.

And stealing is stealing I could care less if it were written for the Vic20 or the XBOX-360°! The only thing(s), that might have a chance are the Homebrew Games like Calisto. Barring that there not useing the S0NY™ SDK to compile there works.

[damienarcangel]

Yah if Nintendo comes out with some kind of iTunes type system for playing Snes, Nes, etc. games on one of their newer systems, then sure its a big factor. The same goes for PSP and PSX games. I believe if a company is making money off of a certain title, then yes piracy is a factor. Its kind of like if you have a neighbor who had an old drill that he didn't use anymore because he bought a new, better drill. Well you are repairing your roof and you went to his house and stole it.(I've never done this btw, I swear!.) Yeah, defintitely stealing is stealing and its wrong but should be call the cops on you for stealing something he has no use for and isn't using to make money? I don't believe so. Of course you should have asked for it and he definitely has the right to call the cops but whats the point if he's not using it? Maybe he'll want to use it in the future you say? Well ask for it back or something. Of course gaming companies can't just ask for their old roms/isos back but thats the risk they take by my releasing them.

[chaos-is-me]

I don't nessicarily agree with my piracy but I do download mp3's and episodes of South Park! haha.

Anyway, I look at it this way.. In the past if someone purchused a game or film or cd and then their friend borrowed it and watched/played/listened all the way through then that person most likely won't buy the said product. But that has never been illegal.

I apply this to anything i make or do i.e. when my band recorded our first demo I just made up some sleeves and handed them out for free, it's also up for download on our site wheras other local bands seem to think people want to pay for their crap. Everyone likes free stuff!

I have never downloaded an iso for psp but I was tempted the other day when someone told me you can get the new Tekken. Maybe I will go and download it, maybe I won't but either way I will buy it when it comes out in the UK!

Piracy is just one of those things, love it or hate it it won't ever go away.

[Ichijoe]

Yah if Nintendo comes out with some kind of iTunes type system for playing Snes, Nes, etc. games on one of their newer systems, then sure its a big factor. The same goes for PSP and PSX games. I believe if a company is making money off of a certain title, then yes piracy is a factor. Its kind of like if you have a neighbor who had an old drill that he didn't use anymore because he bought a new, better drill. Well you are repairing your roof and you went to his house and stole it.(I've never done this btw, I swear!.) Yeah, defintitely stealing is stealing and its wrong but should be call the cops on you for stealing something he has no use for and isn't using to make money? I don't believe so. Of course you should have asked for it and he definitely has the right to call the cops but whats the point if he's not using it? Maybe he'll want to use it in the future you say? Well ask for it back or something. Of course gaming companies can't just ask for their old roms/isos back but thats the risk they take by my releasing them.

That's funny 'cause I do and would! So you think that it's wrong to swipe a current 'Program' but, if you can not leagly obtain said 'Program' it's ok to swipe it. So by your argument it's ok to 'swipe' Windows 2000 Professional. 'cause nobody uses it / Microsoft don't support it no more. Congratulations by your own argument you just joined your own Assclown Club!

Stealing is Stealing PERIOD! The last I knew Copyrights had a Lifespan of around 99 Years. I'd have yet to see any Program that was no longer any such protections! Given that the Industry is only like what? 30 some odd years old (With Pong)?!

[Caelyth]

Piracy doesn't really hurt gaming consoles because not a lot of people really know about it. The kids that have psp's at my school have never even heard of hombrew except a rare few. The only way homebrew would really hurt the psp is if sony publicaly announced that people were using the psp for homebrew and gave a link to this site. lol.