PSP Homebrew Scene Going Illegal With Custom Firmwares and Devhook ?

[Kaiser]

DCemu is fine without pirates. We won't fall for the legality argument. We all know the real reason people use those programs and we'll continue to ban them like we always have. However the real reason DCemu bans this discussion is because we don't want the same group of people who are often found on other sites that allow such talk (mostly idiots). We want to advertise a clean, safe and fun homebrew scene.

Our rules are fine and their is no justification for using illegal ISOs. The whole legal back-up argument is pretty weak as well.

[Ichijoe]

DCemu is fine without pirates. We won't fall for the legality argument. We all know the real reason people use those programs and we'll continue to ban them like we always have. However the real reason DCemu bans this discussion is because we don't want the same group of people who are often found on other sites that allow such talk (mostly idiots). We want to advertise a clean, safe and fun homebrew scene.

Our rules are fine and their is no justification for using illegal ISOs. The whole legal back-up argument is pretty weak as well.

So would you please do us the great Justice of marking the Line, between say a Rip-off ROM Immage of some Zelda and or Sonic Game to that of let's say for arguments sake Daxer?!

I'm not sure I get you?! If "Leagl Back-ups", do not hold H²o with you? Then why the Hell does this Site openly support and condone the Piracy of everyone elses Platform, (even good 'ol S0NY®™ to some extent w/the fabled PSX Emu.),. But, God forbid One should breath a Word about Devhook's abbility to run *.isos' and or *.csos'...

Talk about the Forking Pot and the damn Kettle!!!

[ACID]

Ichiejoe theres a differense beteween games that are been mass producet right now and a game that its not made anymore and the only way you can get is use. NES doesnt make games eany more for its platform neether does PS1 there for all rom sites are aloud to post the roms granted you still legaly need a copy of the original. PSP umds are new and are all still been produce so no rom site can have them example GBA even though old nintendo still releases games so no web is aloud to host its roms. The bottom line no matter how many times someone downloads a copy like you sayd Zelda or Sonic nintendo is not loosing money because they arent makeing it any more. Thats why with all systems that dont have current sofware sales.

[Ichijoe]

Dude your so full of **IT it reeks!

Don't come up to me all Religious about, One thing and then turn a Blind Eye away from the same thing! I could care less if NES and Co. are passé! There Games are to my knowledge very much still under Copyright! and will remain so for quite some time to come yet!

While the NES and or Other System may not be in any direct harm do to this policy, unlike a current System.

IT'S STILL PIRACY!! Either embrace this view 100%, not to mention all the Homebrews that are ripping off other Peoples good hard Work (e.g. Sprites), or STHU!!

Wasn't Waggster that said something about wanting = stealing a Ferreri? Bla bla...

Well by your argument I should be able to rip off old Elvis CD's from the 'net, Hell Elvis can't make anymore Money! HES' FREAKING DEAD! Right!?

Grow up!

Last Edit: It's freaking amazing how One Site can be so Two-Faced!!

[SweetFA]

Well by your argument I should be able to rip off old Elvis CD's from the 'net, Hell Elvis can't make anymore Money! HES' FREAKING DEAD! Right!?

Grow up!

Last Edit: It's freaking amazing how One Site can be so Two-Faced!!

Elvis CDs are still being made and marketed.
NES games aren't.

Not a very good comparison, was it

[F9zDark]

Perhaps, but his points are valid. All of the emulators can run games that are still under copyright by their owners. If you go out and manage to find an NES game or PSOne game, the copyright owners will get royalties.

That isn't so much different from legally made ISOs, and personally, I find it appalling that staff members of this site would go so far as to say those things about its own members.

If I cared for piracy as much as you believe, why is it that I am here and not over at PSP-Hacks? Because I could give a damn about piracy.

The only ISO I have for the PSP is that of GTA:LCS, and that I made myself, for myself. No one else is getting that ISO. In fact, I don't even have it on my computer anymore, which is a clear indication of just how badly I need it(which now I don't, having purchased another copy of the game.)

ISOs are similar to just about everything found on this site. You all turn a blind eye to roms, even though no one here makes their own roms of the games they own. Which is also another thing, roms too, are illegal if you don't own the game.

Regardless of their availability, you can still find NES and SNES games for sale at game stores. And Ebay is another great location to find these products. That is no excuse either.

We may as well be 100% on this and do not condone the use of any products which can essentially be used for illegal activities. If you're going to be strict about ISOs, then be strict about all Music apps, Photo apps, Video apps, and Emulators; since all of those programs can run illegally obtained material; none of which provides the end user with a way to obtain these items legally from the things they own, mind you, unlike Fastloader.

[shadowprophet]

Dude your so full of **IT it reeks!

Don't come up to me all Religious about, One thing and then turn a Blind Eye away from the same thing! I could care less if NES and Co. are passé! There Games are to my knowledge very much still under Copyright! and will remain so for quite some time to come yet!

While the NES and or Other System may not be in any direct harm do to this policy, unlike a current System.

IT'S STILL PIRACY!! Either embrace this view 100%, not to mention all the Homebrews that are ripping off other Peoples good hard Work (e.g. Sprites), or STHU!!

Wasn't Waggster that said something about wanting = stealing a Ferreri? Bla bla...

Well by your argument I should be able to rip off old Elvis CD's from the 'net, Hell Elvis can't make anymore Money! HES' FREAKING DEAD! Right!?

Grow up!

Last Edit: It's freaking amazing how One Site can be so Two-Faced!!

You have quite possibly the worst attitude ive seen from an active member in the forums, Maybe its best if you become nonactive for about. ohh say seven days, to work on that attitude problem..

[SSaxdude]

Ok, old games (like NES) aren't new and the companies making them aren't making money off them. But there is still a big market for these games.

If I were to download a PSP iso, Gamestop or Ebgames wouldn't get my money from selling me this game.
If I were to download Super Mario Bros. and use it on a PSP emulator (and I don't own this game) then Gamestop or Ebgames won't get my money from selling me this game.

Roms and PSP isos are pretty much the same, so stop tricking yourself into thinking isos are this horrible thing.

Emulators could be considered illegal since some use bios. How many of you actually own a Neo Geo or Neo Geo CD?

There are so many advantages to using isos rather than UMDs.

[DPyro]

DS have very good games where most games on PSP are tasteless (We dont even have a proper crash bandicoot game yet, which i would buy happily)

You do realize that Crash Bandicoot is dead. As in, the rights to the game are owned by Universal Studios and therefor Naughty Dog decided to make another game working with Sony (Jak and Daxter). Sony now owns Naughty Dog.

[Kaiser]

Your all over-looking what I've already stated. Just because its legal doesn't make it okay.

~ We don't share any commercial roms on this site. Nether do we share and illegal PSP ISO's. Everyone should understand that.

~ Those loaders are legal sure enough, but we'd prefer not allow discussion or post news about them. We have many reasons for this rule. We don't want a community full of pirates and ISO loaders do far too much damage to the PSP. ISO loaders hurt the image of our site and they hurt the image of the PSP community as a whole (which is only trying to gain legitimacy). The coders behind them aren't doing anyone favours in the long run.