Consoles suffering same 'hardware obsolescence' as PC

[MicroNut]

I am shocked by their perspective.
Did they really think that consoles aren't outdated from the day they are born?
They have always been the cheap way into the gaming market.
Did they just loose their minds or something wtf?

[osgeld]

the point you should be asking is what on the 360 is cheaper to buy than a PS3?

easy you can get the system for nearly half the cost of a PS3, and at nearly 4x the price I do feel ripped off with sony memory cards

and how much does a ps3 hard disk cost? I asked one day and it was nearly the entire cost of the system

[symbal]

The Ps3 hdd is just a standard 2.5" drive you can buy anywhere, it even shows in the instructions how to install and format it, the 360 is cheaper if you just want to play games from disks but spec up to Ps3 level and you paying more for less.

[VampDude]

easy you can get the system for nearly half the cost of a PS3, and at nearly 4x the price I do feel ripped off with sony memory cards

The PS3 doesn't require a memory card, unless you mean the PS2 which the memory cards were sh*t and companies like Datel made the best cards with 32MB as opposed to SONY's 8MB.

and how much does a ps3 hard disk cost? I asked one day and it was nearly the entire cost of the system

The hard disk (hard drive) is actually the cheapest part, It only cost me £40 to purchase and swap the 120GB drive in my slim to a 320GB drive with the original PS3 drive being put to good use (laptop).

[osgeld]

No we were talking about mspd's on psp

and Yea you can get a hard disk anywhere, but if you bought one from sony expect to pay bigtime for it

Still goes back to ms is soooo expensive, well if you are smart enough to put a drive in a ps3 then is a plastic MS box going to stop you? and If your not then the MS option is still cheaper than the sony option

[phsychokill]

the MS option is still heavily restricted, until the super elite came out the max size allowed by the 360 firmware was 120gb (was put up to 250gb with the release of the super elite) as for sticking any old drive in the MS case that is not possible, it only works with several models of Western digital drive all of them requiring a hacked firmware flashed to them to even have a chance of getting the 360 to read them. (then the limit is still hard capped at 250gb by the system)

as for memory stick pro duo you can pick up a 8gig for well under £20 if you shop around and the SD cards are normally around the same price.

if you start looking at 32/64gig cards then the prices start to shoot up but then it's the same with all solid state hard drives as they are a lot faster and smaller (casing) than most PC drives. a lot of the solid state drives make the 360 hard drive seem cheap but that's just the way it is when you use high quantities of flash memory as it costs more to make and has much higher performance that a standard plate drive.

as for price difference between a PS3 and 360, you need to take into account to get the same usability you need either an elite/super elite, a play and charge kit, a Wifi adaptor and a Live sub card, add all that up and your basically at the same price. the 360 being cheap is an illusion it seems cheap because it comes heavily stripped down with everything you need being an optional extra. were the PS3 comes with everything you need to get playing right out of the box (with the exception of a HDMI lead but neither console comes with that)

[VampDude]

No we were talking about mspd's on psp

Oh, PSP.

and Yea you can get a hard disk anywhere, but if you bought one from sony expect to pay bigtime for it

Still goes back to ms is soooo expensive, well if you are smart enough to put a drive in a ps3 then is a plastic MS box going to stop you? and If your not then the MS option is still cheaper than the sony option

The plastic box for the Xbox drives aren't too restricting, though sadly it would require flashing via linking to a PC unlike the easy PS3 drive swapping which only requires a quick format with a small USB flash drive containing the update data for the console to register. Whilst SONY have the cheaper method of updating, Microsoft have the methods of which many people wouldn't bother and end up paying for the larger drive add-on (not good).

for price difference between a PS3 and 360, you need to take into account to get the same usability you need either an elite/super elite, a play and charge kit, a Wifi adaptor and a Live sub card, add all that up and your basically at the same price. the 360 being cheap is an illusion it seems cheap because it comes heavily stripped down with everything you need being an optional extra. were the PS3 comes with everything you need to get playing right out of the box (with the exception of a HDMI lead but neither console comes with that)

HDMI cables are cheap enough to not be added, all the other things show Microsoft's greed for when they saw that almost every gamer would like to play online by selling the adapter and the subscriptions.

[osgeld]

guess it depends on your needs, I want a console to play games on a TV, the 360 fits that need and right out of the box will do that

now if i was one of the unwashed masses then maybe i would NEED all the extra stuff

but this is going way off topic at this point back to the original article, you upgrade your console as much as a pc, just usually it comes all in 1 box

[VampDude]

A console cannot be upgraded asmuch as a PC, except for the memory capacity.

So for the topic of upgrading a console, it would be to buy the newest whereas with a PC it would be to upgrade the graphics card and maybe the operating system amongst the two to three other things, in which the PC is the very same except upgraded internally and the console an entirely new console altogether.