Legality of Custom Gameboots Produced with Sony's Leaked Tools

[Illegal Machine]

Sony can kiss BOTH sides of my a$$.



if you think I'd buy a gallon of orange juice, and then agree to never take it out of the container, you're stupid.


same thing with an ISO. if sony says, I'll SELL you a piece of plastic "UMD" (which the only thing in the universe it works with is a PSP) for 50 bucks, Just DON'T take the content out of the media, I'd say "Hey Sony, You're stupid, I'm gonna do what I want, then post about it"


and if ANYONE thinks I give a damn about Sony, EA games, the related distributors, the retailers, or ANYONE who makes a dollar and a cent in this industry, well YOU'RE stupid too. Because well, I don't


I don't care about the Sony employees.

I don't care about Sony stockholders

I don't care about game develpoers (Ive paid them enough over the years)

I don't care about retailers losses

nothing . and if the PSP dies, well I'll buy a few extra, downgrade them, and keep em around as spares just in case mine breaks.



this is a stupid thread. Piracy is the way to go. to hell with paying... let the Parents of 11 year olds do that for you

[NoQuarter]

NOBODY PAYS=NO MORE DEVELOPMENT
Sony made a really great machine I don't understand why so many people are saying screw you sony

[firedragon_jing]

Ok, I don't know why this is causing such a giant uproar, if you think about it, piracy has been going on for years, and it only puts scratches into the major companies. It's not just in the gaming community, but all software.

That aside, we're complaining about what?, a 2 second video that plays very quick before loading a game of some sort. It's not that big of a deal, infact the PSP Sony logo still displays, so it's not taking away from Sony, it's just removes that ugly splash of color, I rather have something like the PS2 gameboot or even the PSX gameboot.

Now, you can say that the $2000 software used to make these that was leaked is illegal, but you have to realize 3 things. A) This is a beta software without the full features of the one you pay for, you can't even buy this version because it's obsolete. B) This isn't meant for making game movies, this was software for the movie companies to make the UMD Video's with, and as we all know, the UMD Videos are about to die. They're being pulled from store shelves, selling at ridiculously low prices just to get rid of them, and the movie industies have stopped producing these, only ones left are Fox and Sony. They already own it, so the only people they're making real money of this product from are Fox, and once they stop, this software dies. and C) The reason for the high price is along with paying for the software, you're also buying a license to sell the products you make with the software. Now so far, nobody is selling the gameboots they're making, they're just giving them away to people who want them and who are brave enough to flash it to their firmware, and only for that purpose because these pmfs only work on 1.50 PSPs, and won't work with 2.71 Devhook.

Once somebody creates their own software to make pmfs, nobody is going to complain, but until then, people are going to be split on the subject, but I just don't see the big deal seeing the only thing people are using this for is to make a 2 second video that's defiantly not worth $2000, that's $1000 a second, I don't even think Paris Hilton can spend money that fast...

[yaustar]

I don't think that I ever said that S0NY®™ didn't own there Firmwarez, and yes it could be ileagle to host 'em.
But, as far as I know nobody is hosting any unpacked and decrypted Firmwarez.
It's only the EBOOT.PBP that you could have downloaded from S0NY®™.
So I don't see what's so damned ileagl about them!

On the other hand S0NY®™, has every right to get pissy about People posting fully Unpacked and Decrypted Firmwarez.
But, none of the even more moderately enlightened Sites would allow that.
As that would be plainly ileagle!

It may well be there Software, but, It sure as Hell is my PSP™.
It is I and not S0NY Computer Entertainment Europe®™ that gets to decide what or when something lands on my PSP™.

Something for you to chew on!
So why can I not legally hold on to say the last Five S0NY®™ Firmwarez
(2.00, 2.50, 2.60, 2.71 & 2.80), on my own Machine?! (Read: Computer),.
BTW: would it be only fair to mention that I got all these at One time or other from S0NYs' own Servers?!

Answers on a Postcard please!

http://www.us.playstation.com/Support/TermsOfUse

6. This may sound familiar, but it's important, so we're going to rephrase it. Anything on this site--pictures, drawings, text, games, anything--is either our property or the property of someone who gave us the permission to use it. IT'S NOT PUBLIC DOMAIN, AND IT'S DEFINITELY NOT YOURS. Don't use any of it for anything other than personal entertainment, unless we say you can (and we probably won't). If you do, you're probably violating at least one law, and since we told you here, we won't feel bad about coming after you.

You can keep it on your PC but as soon as you distrubute it or host it etc, you are breaking the terms of use.

[Mr.Denny]

Sony should realise, if it wasn`t for these "illegal" gameboots the PSP wouldn`t have as much as a big following even if it is illegal.


I have a 2.6, i download Snes and Megadrive games, i buy PSP games. What harm am i doing?.

[yaustar]

Can you say for the same for the thousands (?) of other homebrew/illegal users of the PSP? I know people who brought the PSP purely for homebrew and haven't bought a single game yet. These users do not bring Sony any profit (as they sell the console at a loss AFAIK).

Remember that we are talking about the collective rather then single users.

[NoQuarter]

If dcemu deosn't wan't to host the gameboots for thier own reasons we should support them, period.I personally don't use any gameboot even the one that came with my firmware-I wen't black and never came back.I'm sure there are plenty of other places to get gameboots if thats your thing.They do make a profit on the psp hardware after a certain point-when production costs have dropped enough.

[Mr.Denny]

True but it`s Sonys fault that these users are drawn to homebrew. I mean let`s face it-Sony hasn`t done the best job with the PSP. They need to give us, me, a reason to update my firware. It must be embarassing to Sony that their users have made better applications than they ever had.

What can i say, i`m not shocked it`s illegal but i`ll continue to download ROMS as well as buy my PSP games.

But that`s just me.

[yaustar]

If dcemu deosn't wan't to host the gameboots for thier own reasons we should support them, period.I personally don't use any gameboot even the one that came with my firmware-I wen't black and never came back.I'm sure there are plenty of other places to get gameboots if thats your thing.They do make a profit on the psp hardware after a certain point-when production costs have dropped enough.

Have you seen how much Sony has lost on the Games Division alone?

[Mr.Denny]

But yaustar, can you imagine the percentage that download games?.

I`d say it`s tiny considering you need a PSP 1.5.

If Sony try and pin the PSPs failure down on it`s users they`ll be foolish.