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    hmmm, i run custom firmware so i dont need % :O

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    Yet, laws regarding Reverse Engineering and Interoperability make it all legal. So where do we stand now?

    Also, 1.0 PSPs came without protection measures, so homebrew is legal on them.

    The amount of money Sony would spend to take anyone to court is mere pocket change to them. The court costs of the party involved as the defendant, on the other hand, is far higher than most sites revenue.

    That is how businesses get what they want in court. They simply bring someone they don't like to court and run them into the ground with court costs and legal fees.

    As I said in the article, Sony is doing us a favor by not shutting this site down as it is (even though homebrew is legal). But when they find out that their tools, which cost in upwards of 2000 USD, are being used illegally and without monetary compensation, they will be more than happy to step in.

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    Don't worry...There will be a legit way of creating pmf files soon enough

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    long story short...u no give sony money, sony says **** YOU...but with a lawyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by F9zDark
    1.0 PSPs came without protection measures, so homebrew is legal on them.
    Excellent Point!

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxSMoke
    So you entire website is illegal. Whether you have a Gameboot or not will hardly make a difference.
    Yes, I'm sick of the whining and complaining and over-emphasis at the idea that this site might get shut down at the mere mention of ISO's and now... gameboots, LOL.... Ridiculous!

    Quote Originally Posted by MaxSMoke
    Don't even think for a moment they are cool with any kind of Homebrew software, regardless of the form it takes. You're website is the Enemy as far as they are concerned.
    Exactly, nice to hear people start telling it like it is. Some of the most important work in PSP homebrew gets very little mention here. DevHook, custom firmware, etc. Its amazing that I can talk endlessly about a PS2 ISO emulator if I was trying to code one, but not PSP ISO emulation. Owell, it will be interesting to see the direction this site takes in the near future as more and more breakthroughs and exploits are uncovered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by $n!pR
    Don't worry...There will be a legit way of creating pmf files soon enough
    If a coder can find a way to encode PMF files without relying on Sony software (ie a homebrew PMF encoder) then custom gameboots can become legal.

    As well reverse engineering a game to extract the PMF is legal as well, so long as that PMF isn't distributed.

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    It true, all forms of homebrew (which bypass ANY security measures) are illegal. The fact that Sony hasnt cracked down on this site or any other dedicated homebrew site just shows how much they love their money and their coders. But the main truth of the matter is this: the percentage of homebrew users and the percentage of regular updaters who dont have a clue about homebrew goes something like this, respectivly: 0.03% and 99.07%. In truth, sony are losing so little money over homebrew that its just not a perceived threat. Once the homebrew scene grows big enough to be a threat, then the legal actions begin. However, with the release of the seemingly uncrackable fw 2.7, the chances of the homebrew scene growing enough to be threatening are slim. Us happy few who discovered homebrew in the early days are probably safe for a good while yet REGARDLESS of what is discussed on this website.

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    You may very well be right. But discussion of topics that directly result in Sony's loss of income, will result in expendient legal action.

    Look at this thread, discussing the tools release: http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/sho...light=Composer.

    You see that price? 200,000 Yen. Now whats that in USD? 1,744.36 USD courtesy of www.xe.com.

    Thats nearly 2,000 dollars. Since yesterday's post about gameboots, which is now deleted, I recall 3 users of this site who openly admitted to downloading the leaked software. Thats 6,000 USD out of Sony's pockets.

    Way more than homebew ever cost them (I can't speak for everyone, but now with Devhook, I am buying more UMD games since I can run them on 1.5). That is why there needs to be a stop to this. Downloading and installing homebrew doesn't cost Sony 2000 dollars at a clip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F9zDark
    You may very well be right. But discussion of topics that directly result in Sony's loss of income, will result in expendient legal action.

    Look at this thread, discussing the tools release: http://www.dcemu.co.uk/vbulletin/sho...light=Composer.

    You see that price? 200,000 Yen. Now whats that in USD? 1,744.36 USD courtesy of www.xe.com.

    Thats nearly 2,000 dollars. Since yesterday's post about gameboots, which is now deleted, I recall 3 users of this site who openly admitted to downloading the leaked software. Thats 6,000 USD out of Sony's pockets.

    Way more than homebew ever cost them (I can't speak for everyone, but now with Devhook, I am buying more UMD games since I can run them on 1.5). That is why there needs to be a stop to this. Downloading and installing homebrew doesn't cost Sony 2000 dollars at a clip.
    Sony doesnt lose any money because some lil kids got a leaked BETA of the software, which doesnt even have all the tools. Plus the fact the only thing they'll know howto do is create MPS files which arent very useful on their own. Sony, won't go after anyone with these tools. Just like they didnt go after anyone who got the leaked sdk src, or any ISO's of games.

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