Homebrew a true utopian society?

**Kramer** · August 8th, 2006, 06:53

i dont see how ripping a few sprites could hurt a company.
all these rich ass companies have enough money allready so they should stop being bitches

**shadowprophet** · August 8th, 2006, 06:54

Originally Posted by Pico

Well thats an outright lie, you (shadowprophet) regulary post news about that dude who mods turrican and im pretty sure he dont hold any copyrights stateing he owns the franchise or has any permission from who holds the copyright for use of turrican in any way.

You have to understand, this particular copyright issue was just recently brought to light,
You also have to take into account, that none of us staff are certified legal technicians. we do our best, and even still some things will slip through the cracks. We simply don't have the time, to disassemble and examine every piece of homebrew that comes our way, But I assure you.
When something illegal is discovered it is put into evaluation, until it is either cleared or removed.
You have to also consider that you are getting your legal issues crossed here most if the issues you are talking about fall into the fan ware category, (fan recreations of art sprites that someone created there selves)- it is not illegal to use those. provided the user had permission form there creator. while its true. that certain art and music have slipped by us, that where commercial property, since then a strict new policy has taken effect. while we fell it unnecessary to evaluate every piece of homebrew we have, when we do discover something illegal that has slipped through the cracks it will generally disappear rather quickly.

**PSPdemon** · August 8th, 2006, 07:01

i dont see how ripping a few sprites could hurt a company.
all these rich ass companies have enough money allready so they should stop being bitches

okay.....let me give you an example

if you worked on a game sprite.....that you would have worked on for 2 months to perfect....and then you would see someone else make a game with your sprites and not give you credit.....wouldnt you pe pissed as well...

i would....

its like when i tried to make halo on the psp..... it was me making a game look like halo.......think about it...you would be a xbox user and would walk into a panera....you would see someone with a psp and would ask "hey, what ya playin" and they would show you a halo game on the psp..... now.....xbox hasnt moved onto the portable side of things and people would love to be able to play on the go....and then people would want to get a psp to try it out as well

meaning.... more sales on the psp.....less sales on the xbox...

thats why......we need to try to develop new and unique types of homebrew.....

everytime i see a new and inventive homebrew piece come out......it seems to be better than anything else.....

a good example is crystalise.......that game had a unique gameplay and was really addictive... and it was made from a thought.......

anyway,

Thanks Again,

PSPdemon

**PSPdemon** · August 8th, 2006, 07:09

You have to understand, this particular copyright issue was just recently brought to light,
You also have to take into account, that none of us staff are certified legal technicians. we do our best, and even still some things will slip through the cracks. We simply don't have the time, to disassemble and examine every piece of homebrew that comes our way, But I assure you.
When something illegal is discovered it is put into evaluation, until it is either cleared or removed.
You have to also consider that you are getting your legal issues crossed here most if the issues you are talking about fall into the fan ware category, (fan recreations of art sprites that someone created there selves)- it is not illegal to use those. provided the user had permission form there creator. while its true. that certain art and music have slipped by us, that where commercial property, since then a strict new policy has taken effect. while we fell it unnecessary to evaluate every piece of homebrew we have, when we do discover something illegal that has slipped through the cracks it will generally disappear rather quickly.

rather a good point shades....

we try our best to make sure that nothing illegal slips though into dcemu...... but between moderation and looking thorugh homebrew.....its a hard task to bear......we might not catch onto it right away....but we do reasure that if somthing is "slipped thorugh the cracks" it will be taken off the site asap....

anyway.....nice going shades

Thanks for Everything,
PSPdemon

**NoQuarter** · August 8th, 2006, 07:12

It seems pretty obvious that we all just need more open source and original input and no longer rely on an already existing franchise.By making our own stuff open source we clear the way for future developers not to have these problems. GPL anyone?Maybe everything here should be required to be licensed under GPL or something similar.

**Voltron** · August 8th, 2006, 07:25

I have good in me, but I'm drawn to the DARK....

The PSP homebrew scene is great. Nothing better. I love and support PSP homebrew all the way. It has been an amazing time lately for PSP homebrew. With that being said, I will NOT give up the Dark Side of homebrew. I am all for the FULL version of DevHook and ISO Loading and will never stop.

Yes, I download ISO's. But mostly I do this to get games that are released first in Japan. Games like Bomberman Portable & Ultimate Ghosts 'N Goblins that I just cannot wait for. Instead of paying a hefty import price, I will do this but I will also buy the game when it is released in the U.S. No need for me to buy the game twice so I don't see any harm in what I do.

There are some issues I need to take up with this article and idea that the Dark Side of homebrew is threatening its vitality.

1.) GBA -- The GBA is not dead and is still selling a lot of commercial units and games. But there is no outcry over a GBA EMU that plays GBA ROMS. In fact its one of the most supported works of homebrew on the PSP.

2.) PSOne EMU -- Everyone wants a true "homebrew" PSOne EMU to be made to allow us to play FREE PSOne ISO's. This will no doubt undermine Sony's financial gain from their official PSOne EMU and game download service. Sooooo, copyrighted PSOne ISO's are fair game but PSP ISO's are taboo?

Given these 2 expamples, is it just me or is something wrong with this hypcrtitical throught process? Yes, I've been fed the usual line from MODs stating that ROMS don't directly relate to the PSP so it is not fair to comprare ROMS to PSP ISO's. That is weakest argument I've ever heard. ROMs, ISO's, either way, not much difference.

I think many in the PSP scene need to lighten up and stop worrying about fabled legal problems or the PSP being killed. Look at the vast amount of great titles set to be released over the next 2-3 months for the PSP. The PSP is not being killed off by piracy.

::IN CLOSING::

I am in favor of Sony's PSOne EMU and have no problem paying a reasonable fee for downloadable PSOne games. I really want Sony to succeed on this one. I truly believe that a "homebrew" PSOne EMU will cause Sony more damage than PSP ISO's.

LIGHTEN UP EVERYONE! STOP CONCENTRATING ON THE NEGATIVE!!!

No matter what, PSP ISO loading is not going anywhere. You either support it or you don't but I want people to stop trying to separate GOOD homebrew users from BAD homebrew users to create some sort of divide. Labeling us all Pirates is not fair and we all need to be united.

**NoQuarter** · August 8th, 2006, 07:28

I really don't want to pay sony for games I have already paid for.No need to pay for a game twice.

Does this fall under the fair use laws?Seems to me it would.Look we all fall into the grey area and should not pass judgement on each other,but Dcemu needs to be protected as much as possible.I don't know about you guys but I REALLY don't like most other psp forums, the people are extremely rude!

**groovemaster303** · August 8th, 2006, 08:24

to be honest the best thing about the psp is its emulators and stuff from Snes TYL to Capcom CPS1/2. i sure most people will agree that many of the psp's official games are lackluster ports or just have unimpressive gameplay.
but Sony being sony they view everything nasty and horrible will stop at nothing to destroy the homebrew scene.
Iso loaders are bad for various reasons but nobody will stop using them.
this is looking like it could turn into a very nasty time for the HB scene.

**compoman386** · August 8th, 2006, 09:23

Originally Posted by shadowprophet

You have to understand, this particular copyright issue was just recently brought to light

Yes, but surely you have been aware before now that roms are, no matter what you think on a moral level, illegal. One of the most popular things in psp homebrew right now is emulators, and this site has links to a ton of them, do people really believe that people are only using them for public domain roms? Or just roms of games they already own? Especially when every time you post news of the realese of a new emu, at least one of the screenshots will be of a commercial game in action.

Im not saying it's wrong, but legal it ain't