PSX-P Beta 1 Released - Playstation Emulator for PSP

[quzar]

It appears on these forums I am unable to send a Private Message to Yoshihiro. Perhaps someone could point me to another way of contacting him.

As an ongoing member of PCSX / PCSX2, I am formally complaining about this emulator, and will expect something done about it via the admins of this forum.

The GPL allows for developers to release their work to the public, for such ports to occur, but it strictly defines that the source for any work based on such a project to be open.

If it was not for PCSX's open source nature and the GPL license, you would not have this port, or the same level of emulation available to you.

Thus I would not expect the people on these forums to be so flippent about such a situation, it is because of such actions many emulation projects are going closed source, as the development community are sick and tired of glory hunters that give no credit to the people behind the emulator.

I am making a 'public' statement about this, because it is something people should be immediately aware of.

I would note that site such as emulation64 have already responded to the complaint and removed this 'port'.

Yoshihiro should of released the source at the same time as he released this port, no ASAP about it, the instant it become public with no source you are breaking the GPL and the very reasons for it's existance. The GPL allows an open source community to thrive, ignore it, expect the growing trend of closed source projects to continue.

apparently, this release was 'leaked' as it was not released by the original author, and although he has (after being called on it) admitted it was based on pcsx, he does not show any sort of hint that he will release the source.

I was the one who originally removed the download leak, and within hours I was almost kicked off of staff ( i guess that might still be pending decision) and the download was put up again (as evidenced by this thread).

I hope that you can make more of a difference with this than I.

[Sterist]

this emulator doesnt clock the psp to 333 on its own, launch it via irshell w/ 333 to get 2~3fps speed up

[kando]

It appears on these forums I am unable to send a Private Message to Yoshihiro. Perhaps someone could point me to another way of contacting him.

As an ongoing member of PCSX / PCSX2, I am formally complaining about this emulator, and will expect something done about it via the admins of this forum.

The GPL allows for developers to release their work to the public, for such ports to occur, but it strictly defines that the source for any work based on such a project to be open.

If it was not for PCSX's open source nature and the GPL license, you would not have this port, or the same level of emulation available to you.

Thus I would not expect the people on these forums to be so flippent about such a situation, it is because of such actions many emulation projects are going closed source, as the development community are sick and tired of glory hunters that give no credit to the people behind the emulator.

I am making a 'public' statement about this, because it is something people should be immediately aware of.

I would note that site such as emulation64 have already responded to the complaint and removed this 'port'.

Yoshihiro should of released the source at the same time as he released this port, no ASAP about it, the instant it become public with no source you are breaking the GPL and the very reasons for it's existance. The GPL allows an open source community to thrive, ignore it, expect the growing trend of closed source projects to continue.

as psmonkey said best, this isnt as much of a "port" as ppl think it is, as there is obviously alot rewritten....however, credits to pmf definatly were due, and if pmf wants, yoshi should release the source.

idk my 2 cents. this site had a nice 2 hour flamefest over removing the emulator over the gpl and then it came back....this morning the whole thread is gone and the emu is hosted again...idk. imo ps1 iso's and sce themselves making a ps1 emu for the psp is amazing, cuz thats piracy right there..../sigh.

pacmanfan did say tho he expected credits in this "port", and was upset to not see it. yoshi, cmon now, do whats right.

[silver32]

about the GPL and source, i think they have explained why it was not released here
http://www.pspgen.com/modules.php?na...ticle&sid=2440
but its in french

translation from babelfish:

Like every morning, I wake up to try to make live PSPGen and by reading the comments on Psx-P and, of the blow, I read a beautiful "Psx-p is illegal", another ' Yoshihiro is a voleur'. That made a long time... Finally that at least awoke me more quickly than of habit.

I thus will explain you the slides of this release and why it did not have right to a readme in the last analysis.

Before yesterday, on certain forum and sites, the rumour of an imminent release of the first version of Psx-P was done growing.

Yoshihiro is an accessible boy very nice, undoubtedly trop.Contrairement with others dev., is contained of nature, he likes to speak and to communicate... and sometimes that plays of the turns. As before yesterday, where, releasing on its channel IRC, in an abstract way, that it went, undoubtedly, releaser a playable version the evening even, the news finished on these forums/sites. Why to have released such an information? I imagine that it is simply because Yoshihiro wanted to show that the Psx-P project really existed. The project having progressed already well since the first demonstration and as the version in progress made it possible to make turn of the commercial plays, the desire for answering the ceaseless provocations of the type ' it is a fake' undoubtedly was done too strong.

Only problem, to prepare a release takes time: to write a nfo (readme) without forgetting anybody, taking time to make the explanations of installation and to put on line. This decided to me to require of him to shift the exit of Saturday evening at Sunday. Miss chance, Sunday was for me one day charged and I could not let leave Psx-P without being there because the waiter would not hold out and it was necessary that I would be there to try to keep it ' one line'.

The decision thus was made of the releaser with 20H Sunday 29/04/06. Returning of my spectacle around the 18 hours, that would leave me two more hours to finick the points of detail. Lastly, that left also time with Yoshihiro to put the readme and to put a last key at the first releasée version of Psx-P.

I had programmed the news automatically, and the upload of the file of the release which I had filmed for 19H55 the 24/09/06. Like that, even if it arrived to me something, that would be done without me. Only handling which remained to me to make: to add the readme before the publication and if required to change to card-index it if Yoshihiro gave me a more recent version of it still.

We did not want to have a minute of delay. All was ready.

That, it was the theory. In practice nothing advanced as envisaged.

Yoshihiro, perfectionist spent the night and the day has to polish its baby and of the blow Na not made the side ' administratif' of the subject: the nfo. On the other hand, it still made progress the emulator of speed and compatibility. A logical choice.

At this time there it is 18H, and Yoshihro wants that we change the version of the day before by this faster and more compatible news. It wanted to make the best possible one. It etait without counting on the rain. Yoshihiro is connected via a spot WiFi and yesterday it was ' the misère' like it is said by on our premises. They was impossible to us to long enough remain connected sets to manage to exchange new the PSx-P. Résultat, irritation and waste of time.

During this time there, our site rowed with abnormally dead. 18 connected hours and only 1200 people, that was not to row as much. It occurred something from abnormal. The logs will say some to us more when I would have analyzed all that but a small attack DOS seems to me plausible. The waste of time brings us to 19H43 and it is always impossible for me to obtain the new version. I drop and release that which was envisaged. Only problem the site is inaccessible to 99% but that one had envisaged it and a copy of the news was on my site perso free and information will be communicated on chan IRC of PSPGen (the cat).

19H53, that to make?

No the nfo (Always impossible to connect itself with Yoshihiro). Is this engraves?

Yoshihiro requires of me, by telephone not releaser without nfo but if I delay the exit one risks pure and hard lynching.

I thus estimated that the nfo could be added thereafter, with the version of this evening, while the exit of the emulator was of primary importance. The clock of the Net having; in any case put an end to my reflexion; because advances some on my watch of 1 minute. With 19H54 for my beautiful Swatch watch and with 19H55 on Internet, Psx-p etait releasé.

At this time there, I was with a margin of my 38ieme hour without sleeping... and Yoshihiro followed me of.

In conclusion, if to have judged that the release was more important than the nfo is a crime, I am guilty but all this will be corrected, as envisaged, this evening (if Yoshihiro does not answer the attacks by a "discontinuance of business")


If not, for the technical part, I am not fixed enough in programming to judge a code BUT sufficiently to know that a code under open licence source can be modified and carried on any support but while releasant the sources each time normally.

I think sincerely that all this polemic is due only to the fact that it is Yoshihiro. I point out that we had already announced that Psx-P was a bearing. There never was fraud on the goods which I know. Moreover, it is not PS the only programmer who release not these sources immediately (had pacmanfan done it him?)

Let us be clear, the absence of sources is a pretext for some to break of Yoshihiro. I would say even more, even if it had taken the sources of pacmanfan, for example, this last was more than one year old to better do.... and it did not do it. Even if, I said, because that remains to be shown, that thus remains sizeable and it is not the absence of a NFO who will change this fact.

[kando]

In conclusion, if to have judged that the release was more important than the nfo is a crime, I am guilty but all this will be corrected, as envisaged, this evening (if Yoshihiro does not answer the attacks by a "discontinuance of business")


If not, for the technical part, I am not fixed enough in programming to judge a code BUT sufficiently to know that a code under open licence source can be modified and carried on any support but while releasant the sources each time normally.

I think sincerely that all this polemic is due only to the fact that it is Yoshihiro. I point out that we had already announced that Psx-P was a bearing. There never was fraud on the goods which I know. Moreover, it is not PS the only programmer who release not these sources immediately (had pacmanfan done it him?)

Let us be clear, the absence of sources is a pretext for some to break of Yoshihiro. I would say even more, even if it had taken the sources of pacmanfan, for example, this last was more than one year old to better do.... and it did not do it. Even if, I said, because that remains to be shown, that thus remains sizeable and it is not the absence of a NFO who will change this fact.

i think that says enough.

[BlueCrab]

as psmonkey said best, this isnt as much of a "port" as ppl think it is, as there is obviously alot rewritten....however, credits to pmf definatly were due, and if pmf wants, yoshi should release the source.

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pacmanfan did say tho he expected credits in this "port", and was upset to not see it. yoshi, cmon now, do whats right.

I'm not trying to incite anything here, but its not specifically the fact of whether yoshi did or did not use pacmanfan's code. In fact, neither I, nor anyone else who is saying that the emulator violates the GPL is saying that.

We're only saying that it violates the license of PCSX (which it is clearly based on).

I don't want to incite flames over the subject. So, if you're gonna argue with me over the point, just don't. It solves nothing.

This is probably the last time I'm gonna explain that.

[Zourn]

imo ps1 iso's and sce themselves making a ps1 emu for the psp is amazing, cuz thats piracy right there..../sigh.

Actually, PSX isos are not illegal if you make them yourself.
And if SCE decided to make a PSX emu, that also would not be illegal (nor piracy), as they do happen to own the rights to it.

[dejkirkby]

I have taken this emu off my PSP and computer, because I've always tried to keep legal and if this is not issued in accordance with the GPL, then I don't want it. Please could the people in charge of the release of this emu please rectify this.

[Yungblaqs]

yeah dis emu is soooo sexy yes!!!!

[Tinnus]

Just to note: even if something is based on GPL code, but changed 99% of it, while there is 1% of the original GPL code it's still under GPL. Unless you replace 101% of it with original code.

Another note, according to the GPL the source doesn't have to be *released* along with the binary, but either *released* or *offered*.

We didn't see an offer though

In any way, Yoshihiro, go ahead and release the source... or state publicly you'll send it to anyone who wants it.

(uploading it somewhere is easier though)