Dreamcast's death meant the survival of Sega?

[Elven6]

Do you guys agree with what this guy claims?

http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/gam...-dreamcast.htm

Seems like hes done his research on this, although its a bit outdated.

[JKKDARK]

Yes, I think that he is right.

[GI_Josh]

Yes, he is right. In order for Sega to focus on making games, (the best thing it can do, IMO) it needed to drop the console game. It had notoriously lost in all of its console wars, and it wasn't getting any better. Sega needed to find it's niche, and making games, not hardware, was it.

[ßüboni¢ $oñic]

i understand sometimmes you gotta cut off a finger to save the hand but sega really went at the wrist here. The genesis dominated the early '90s, DC and Saturn 100% dominated in Japan, and odly enough all Sega consoles, even the 20 year old ones still dominate in Brazil. Sega problem wasn't that it was in over its head its that it diddn't know what to do when it was on top. The Saturn failed due to bad prices and bad advertising. Sega seems to think at times that if it broadcasts out these calvin kline-esque advertisements without explaining itself things will fall into place. The NOMAD failed because somewhat of the batteries' life issue but really she was just a technologically advanced girl living in a GameBoy's World. I mean come on! I will not budge here, NOMAD failed because you just diddn't like it and even Sega can't solve that. The SegaCD failed because it was just silly. Every game was like a movie or something, wasn't really for gamers.
the Neptune had no chance simply because it was too little too late to solve the problem that warrented it's creation. The Dreamcast failed because of the same key issues that hurt sega period:

1. Did not take advantage of immidiet opening when it stood alone in its game generation.

2. Did not advertise properly.

3. Always spoiling the Japanese Markets with the best projects, add on, concepts.

4. Infighting within SOJ-SOA relations.

5. And it seems sega can usher in any error of advancement and prowess yet no one cares until its been copied.


Sega is not best making games just like Susan B. Anthony does not belong in a kitchen.. GI you just want to see Sega $#@! it self off to the other console makers. Sonic on nintendo games is not acceptable. Without games and console sega is useless because its hypocritical.

[Smurph]

i understand sometimmes you gotta cut off a finger to save the hand but sega really went at the wrist here. The genesis dominated the early '90s, DC and Saturn 100% dominated in Japan, and odly enough all Sega consoles, even the 20 year old ones still dominate in Brazil. Sega problem wasn't that it was in over its head its that it diddn't know what to do when it was on top. The Saturn failed due to bad prices and bad advertising. Sega seems to think at times that if it broadcasts out these calvin kline-esque advertisements without explaining itself things will fall into place. The NOMAD failed because somewhat of the batteries' life issue but really she was just a technologically advanced girl living in a GameBoy's World. I mean come on! I will not budge here, NOMAD failed because you just diddn't like it and even Sega can't solve that. The SegaCD failed because it was just silly. Every game was like a movie or something, wasn't really for gamers.
the Neptune had no chance simply because it was too little too late to solve the problem that warrented it's creation. The Dreamcast failed because of the same key issues that hurt sega period:

1. Did not take advantage of immidiet opening when it stood alone in its game generation.

2. Did not advertise properly.

3. Always spoiling the Japanese Markets with the best projects, add on, concepts.

4. Infighting within SOJ-SOA relations.

5. And it seems sega can usher in any error of advancement and prowess yet no one cares until its been copied.


Sega is not best making games just like Susan B. Anthony does not belong in a kitchen.. GI you just want to see Sega $#@! it self off to the other console makers. Sonic on nintendo games is not acceptable. Without games and console sega is useless because its hypocritical.

While I do agree with some of what you say, your point immediately becomes doug as soon as people see your nickname.

[ßüboni¢ $oñic]

nickname? wtf do u mean good sir?!

[Smurph]

nickname? wtf do u mean good sir?!

"ßüboni¢ $oñic".

Any person with a decent IQ will cringe at the sight of that name.

[ACID]

I for one dont agree. Sony had better games when its sega was release , then the nintendo excluding mario series. And they where always going strong nintendo releses duck hunt and sega releases hogans alley. Mario then wonderboy. and so on. They always had an answer for nintendo at that time , But like sony they got gready and thats what made them loose at the counsil wars. Early releases all though better. No games. And we can look at another millions excuses. But the maine one was greed.

[Smurph]

I for one dont agree. Sony had better games when its sega was release , then the nintendo excluding mario series. And they where always going strong nintendo releses duck hunt and sega releases hogans alley. Mario then wonderboy. and so on. They always had an answer for nintendo at that time , But like sony they got gready and thats what made them loose at the counsil wars. Early releases all though better. No games. And we can look at another millions excuses. But the maine one was greed.

keyword: 'some'.

[GagaMan]

Yeah, if Sega had kept producing the Dreamcast, there was a good chance they would have gone completely bankrupt, and that they wouldn't even be around anymore. It's a shame, because they still had so many Dreamcast units left to sell by 2001, that they couldn't just stop making more units, but continue making games for it along side the multi format games. Hell, there recently were selling off the last units they had just this year in Japan, bundled with Radilgy, so the units they had left over would of easily of been enough to last them another two years or so.

If they kept it going without producing more units of the system, we may of seen games up until about 2004, IMO. Super Monkey Ball for the DC would have been sweet.

Another thing that bugs me: Ever since the Dreamcast was stopped, Sega have run out of creative steam. For the short time that the Dreamcast was going, Sega were probably at their creative peak, releasing tons of original games. Now what do we get? Sonic games that don't improve on what we already got years ago with Sonic Adventure, remakes, ports, sequels and not a lot else. They may of saved themselves from death by killing off the Dreamcast, but they have been as good as, really.