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    Of course I understand that Sony makes Electronic goods. But apparently, these analysts are taking into account that fact. The fact that Sony is an allround company that has many branches and brands. Did they take into account that the losses could have been from branches such as Ericsson or Plasma Televisions? Also to note: Nintendo develops and reaps the profits of basically any high-selling game that appears on a Nintendo console. SCE on the other hand, only develops a handful of hit titles (when viewed in comparison to Nintendo titles) as most game sales for the PlayStation platform come from third-party titles.

    nintendo is a gaming company what is there to say,theyre the best
    To the gentleman who wrote this up... how about we draw attention to the previous (or current) generation home console wars. GameCube sales, as of September 30 2006, Nintendo has shipped a total of 21 million Nintendo GameCube units worldwide. Christ, sounds like alot of consoles... right?

    Right. That is alot of consoles sold. How about the Sony PlayStation 2? Over 105 million units shipped worldwide by March 31, 2006. Oh... okay! So that means only about five times more PS2s were shipped than Nintendo flagship home console. Even coming third to a new-comer to the home console scene isn't proof enough (Microsoft and the X-Box) for some Nintendo loyalists. But of course, we can't trace the roots of success to merely last generation. We must step back in time for that...

    The Nintendo 64 sold 32.93 million systems worldwide. The Sony PlayStation sold over 100 million consoles.... see a pattern here? The handheld market, however is one plagued with loyalty and devotion to the King of handhelds, Nintendo. I myself recently bought a GameBoy micro just to play Final Fantasy IV. But that is getting beside the point.

    My point is this; Sony is a huge-profile company with many sub-brands and many costs. Nintendo is a high-profile gaming company that is recognized all over the world. Sony has a stranglehold on the Home Console market. Nintendo has a stranglehold on the handheld market. The title of this article is an illusion used to instill more sorrow in the hearts of a faithful PSP Community. Sony is just another big company that cares for its shareholders first, and customers second. Nintendo has a cult-like following in it's fans, due to the respect and understanding that they receive from the company.

    Every corporation has its gains and its losses. Sadly, we are in a community where every negative is used to rub in the face of the recipients fans and customers. I'm all for the console wars. I'm all for brand-loyalty (go RAW!). And I'm all for making fun of the opposition (TNA sucks). But when it comes down to it, we have to face facts and we can't make stupid statements like 'I hate Sony, Sony sucks, Nintendo is the greatest full stop.' We have to look at the facts, think about it, and then make our opinion heard. A knowledged gamer is a good gamer.

    Thanks for reading and responding. Always good to hear from people with constructive comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_eternal_dark
    Since when does a console NEED to play cds or dvds to be a console? Nintendo is about gaming not movies and music. Most likely anyone who buys the console has a dvd player. Most likely it won't play dvd's to thwart pirates from having their way with the system. How long did it take for anyone to burn a Gamecube readable disk? I think Nintendo will still be in the best position for this new gen of consoles, even without dvd support.

    Good to see that Sony is losing some of that deep pocket.
    Maybe not for you, but I refuse to buy a console that doesn't. I have never bought a DVD player because I bought a PS2. And I was planning on buying a PS3 for the same reason, except in the PS3s case, it would be the answer for all multimedia.

    Nintendo will eventually have to jump on this bandwagon and I am surprised that the demographic of places like Tokyo hasn't put Nintendo out of business, where apartments are barely big enough to house one human being, let alone all their extra crap (which is why Japan is the one country who tries to make everything as small as possible), because SPACE is an issue.

    As we move foward into the future, more and more people are looking to one source for all their entertainment needs. Nintendo plays up to the kid crowd, which does well for it just about everywhere. But when the Next-Next Gen console comes out in about 5 to 10 years when a single computer or device controls the entire house, Nintendo will be left in the dust with their dinosaur practices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F9zDark
    Maybe not for you, but I refuse to buy a console that doesn't. I have never bought a DVD player because I bought a PS2. And I was planning on buying a PS3 for the same reason, except in the PS3s case, it would be the answer for all multimedia.

    Nintendo will eventually have to jump on this bandwagon and I am surprised that the demographic of places like Tokyo hasn't put Nintendo out of business, where apartments are barely big enough to house one human being, let alone all their extra crap (which is why Japan is the one country who tries to make everything as small as possible), because SPACE is an issue.

    As we move foward into the future, more and more people are looking to one source for all their entertainment needs. Nintendo plays up to the kid crowd, which does well for it just about everywhere. But when the Next-Next Gen console comes out in about 5 to 10 years when a single computer or device controls the entire house, Nintendo will be left in the dust with their dinosaur practices.
    Well then, most likely in Japan, many people have either a DVD player or a PS2 for DVDs already, look at the sales numbers. I think Nintendo is making a smart move with it. I know Japan is crowded and very unroomy, but they somehow seem to manage just fine when the next consoles come out. You also have to figure in that not everyone who is buying a Wii will be living in Tokyo. Have you seen how small a dvd player can actually be? Nintendo may also be looking at the fact that people are also buying the other systems as well and since DVD players are cheap, no need to add it to the system and increase the price.

    I have one at the house just big enough for DVD's, it's region free, and was very cheap (like 20-30usd), granted it's not the best, but it gets the job done. And what happens when everything goes to HD-DVD in 3-5 years? Including basic DVD capability would be impractical in that respect. And everyone (not really everyone) said DVD wouldn't replace VHS (they were all rednecks too, so i do have to consider that).

    You said yourself you are planning on getting a PS3 for multimedia purposes anyway, why would you want a Wii to do the same thing as well?

    The affordability of such equipment in 5-10 years to run everything in the house will be too much for the average person to afford.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_eternal_dark
    The affordability of such equipment in 5-10 years to run everything in the house will be too much for the average person to afford.
    Everything in the house? Was he not just talking about the multimedia needs of the average home? In any case, if you think that Nintendo has never been prone to multimedia aspects in their consoles, look no further than your beloved DS. The "Internet Browser" is a foray into the world of Nintendo + multimedia, no matter how afraid some people are. My friend Thomas, a hardcore Nintendork, states that he buys Nintendo systems for games, not multimedia. I must agree with him there. The PS3 is the opposite of what the Wii is trying to market itself to be. The PS3 is a home-entertainment system. The Wii is a video-gaming system. That's how it is and that's how it should stay.

    However, Nintendo chose to further it's venture into Multimedia, with the Opera internet browser for the Wii. Thomas was over joyed when he heard the news and decided to rub it in my face. "Look how modern Nintendo is now, Wii have an internet browser... built it!!1one." Very good, Thomas. Did you know the PS3 has a web browser also? No, he did not, but upon learning this, he stated that Sony copied Nintendo.....

    (Please do not turn out like Thomas. He is an ignorant fan boy who presents false accusations backed up by the pathetic comeback "We'll see when it comes out". I hope that not all Nintendo Fanboys are as shallow as Thomas. The Multimedia-hating, Sony-bashing, Nintendogs-playing fool from regional Australia.)

    Quick question that is Wii-related; will you grow tire of the novelty value of waving around a controller? Will the public realize that Nintendo's hope for the future is based around a novelty idea? And will this console appeal to the people who really count in the gaming industry: the gamer? I for one, believe that the PS3 has a far greater appeal from a gamer's point of view, but also that the Wii would appeal to me if I were a non-gamer or a casual Nintendo gamer. Like a candy-flavoured cigarette, used to draw common folk and small ethnic children into the world of smoking; will the Wii succeed in it's own right?

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    All this fanboy $#@! is amazing! what would the gaming world be like if either of these companies ceased to exist? Either would be a huge huge loss so plz grow up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by judas_coach
    Everything in the house? Was he not just talking about the multimedia needs of the average home?
    Well I was referring to everything in the house. As of now, one can get software that controls lights and what not through out the house, so it wouldn't surprise me if even the toaster could be controlled by a computer sometime in the future, of course I wasn't looking at the price of such things, which will certainly slow down their prevalence.

    But to each their own; I like Sony for my reasons, just as others like Nintendo or Microsoft for their reasons. Not that I enjoy reading the "Sony is teh suxors" or "Sony sucks nuts! Wii, Almighty!!!" but there are Sony fanbois out there too who are at the ready to bash anything that isn't Sony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judas_coach
    Everything in the house? Was he not just talking about the multimedia needs of the average home? In any case, if you think that Nintendo has never been prone to multimedia aspects in their consoles, look no further than your beloved DS. The "Internet Browser" is a foray into the world of Nintendo + multimedia, no matter how afraid some people are. My friend Thomas, a hardcore Nintendork, states that he buys Nintendo systems for games, not multimedia. I must agree with him there. The PS3 is the opposite of what the Wii is trying to market itself to be. The PS3 is a home-entertainment system. The Wii is a video-gaming system. That's how it is and that's how it should stay.

    However, Nintendo chose to further it's venture into Multimedia, with the Opera internet browser for the Wii. Thomas was over joyed when he heard the news and decided to rub it in my face. "Look how modern Nintendo is now, Wii have an internet browser... built it!!1one." Very good, Thomas. Did you know the PS3 has a web browser also? No, he did not, but upon learning this, he stated that Sony copied Nintendo.....

    (Please do not turn out like Thomas. He is an ignorant fan boy who presents false accusations backed up by the pathetic comeback "We'll see when it comes out". I hope that not all Nintendo Fanboys are as shallow as Thomas. The Multimedia-hating, Sony-bashing, Nintendogs-playing fool from regional Australia.)

    Quick question that is Wii-related; will you grow tire of the novelty value of waving around a controller? Will the public realize that Nintendo's hope for the future is based around a novelty idea? And will this console appeal to the people who really count in the gaming industry: the gamer? I for one, believe that the PS3 has a far greater appeal from a gamer's point of view, but also that the Wii would appeal to me if I were a non-gamer or a casual Nintendo gamer. Like a candy-flavoured cigarette, used to draw common folk and small ethnic children into the world of smoking; will the Wii succeed in it's own right?
    Holy freaking crap dude! I too have a friend named Thomas that is exactly like yours.

    But with that out of the way, all I ahev to say is:
    Nintendo: Gaming, pure gaming
    Sony: Massive Mulitmedia business that impliments that fact into their consoles (and handheld).

    I downright hate Sony for reasons beyond comprehension. I've also been a Nintendo fanboy and always will be. The Gamecube - PS2 thing is rediculous. PS2 has good quality games. I love the Budokai games. Gamecube has the smae. SSBM is one of my favorite games ever. Either way, Sony's products to me are for multimedia purposes (hell, homebrew, and web browser all the freakin' way. I hardly play UMDs at all.). I own a DS as well and I can say I've had alot better gaming experience's with it.

    Were the heck am I going with this? Deal with it people. I hate Sony but have descency to give them a chance. I love Nintendo but I don't go bashing in the faces of all the Sony fans.

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    Good to know there is more than one Thomas - ignorant cynical Nintendo fanboy in the world!

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    Quote Originally Posted by judas_coach
    Of course I understand that Sony makes Electronic goods. But apparently, these analysts are taking into account that fact. The fact that Sony is an allround company that has many branches and brands. Did they take into account that the losses could have been from branches such as Ericsson or Plasma Televisions? Also to note: Nintendo develops and reaps the profits of basically any high-selling game that appears on a Nintendo console. SCE on the other hand, only develops a handful of hit titles (when viewed in comparison to Nintendo titles) as most game sales for the PlayStation platform come from third-party titles.

    To the gentleman who wrote this up... how about we draw attention to the previous (or current) generation home console wars. GameCube sales, as of September 30 2006, Nintendo has shipped a total of 21 million Nintendo GameCube units worldwide. Christ, sounds like alot of consoles... right?

    Right. That is alot of consoles sold. How about the Sony PlayStation 2? Over 105 million units shipped worldwide by March 31, 2006. Oh... okay! So that means only about five times more PS2s were shipped than Nintendo flagship home console. Even coming third to a new-comer to the home console scene isn't proof enough (Microsoft and the X-Box) for some Nintendo loyalists. But of course, we can't trace the roots of success to merely last generation. We must step back in time for that...

    The Nintendo 64 sold 32.93 million systems worldwide. The Sony PlayStation sold over 100 million consoles.... see a pattern here? The handheld market, however is one plagued with loyalty and devotion to the King of handhelds, Nintendo. I myself recently bought a GameBoy micro just to play Final Fantasy IV. But that is getting beside the point.

    My point is this; Sony is a huge-profile company with many sub-brands and many costs. Nintendo is a high-profile gaming company that is recognized all over the world. Sony has a stranglehold on the Home Console market. Nintendo has a stranglehold on the handheld market. The title of this article is an illusion used to instill more sorrow in the hearts of a faithful PSP Community. Sony is just another big company that cares for its shareholders first, and customers second. Nintendo has a cult-like following in it's fans, due to the respect and understanding that they receive from the company.

    Every corporation has its gains and its losses. Sadly, we are in a community where every negative is used to rub in the face of the recipients fans and customers. I'm all for the console wars. I'm all for brand-loyalty (go RAW!). And I'm all for making fun of the opposition (TNA sucks). But when it comes down to it, we have to face facts and we can't make stupid statements like 'I hate Sony, Sony sucks, Nintendo is the greatest full stop.' We have to look at the facts, think about it, and then make our opinion heard. A knowledged gamer is a good gamer.

    Thanks for reading and responding. Always good to hear from people with constructive comments.
    strange how this completely long and pointless argument fails, i love nintendo and sony consoles,but i guess you would assume i only like one console while in reality i like all next gen consoles

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    i want to say thank you to judas_coach for helping me understand those crazy numbers ,i was like huh?
    someone help me here.

    just more i hate sony propaganda to fuel the passion of these children in this lik sang scandal.
    WEAK

    still haveing a great day
    LONG LIVE SONY

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