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    Ahh, the fanboys

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    All because of homebrew, why did you do it sony, why couldn't you just let it happen, why?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAMPRO
    oh how things will change in a matter of months. sony will be up double that after the initial 6 months of ps3 launch. and nintendo will be wondering what the hell they are thinking with that wierdo wii controller. lol.

    mario is having his cake right now, but sony will eat it all soon enough. hahah.
    Are you kidding me? Sony will be in about the same place next year because they will still be selling consoles at a loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by judas_coach
    Of course I understand that Sony makes Electronic goods. But apparently, these analysts are taking into account that fact. The fact that Sony is an allround company that has many branches and brands. Did they take into account that the losses could have been from branches such as Ericsson or Plasma Televisions? Also to note: Nintendo develops and reaps the profits of basically any high-selling game that appears on a Nintendo console. SCE on the other hand, only develops a handful of hit titles (when viewed in comparison to Nintendo titles) as most game sales for the PlayStation platform come from third-party titles.
    My impression was that the article was talking strictly about gaming divisions, not plasma televisions or anything like that. If SONY's losses came from non-gaming divisions, then I imagine they would have said as much, rather than attributing losses to, "the battery recall and PS3 start-up costs." Considering all of the media appliances and such that SONY sells, I doubt they ever see a total profit loss of anything even approaching 94%. It'd be quite something to see so many different branches of media drop all at once.

    As far as making their own games, yes Nintendo makes a lot of their own games, but they still contract development out to smaller companies, so they have their costs too. SONY may not make many of their own games, but they still make monster profits from the liscensing fees they get from third-party game developers (as do Nintendo and Microsoft). They'd have to; otherwise they could never sell their systems below production cost.

    Quote Originally Posted by judas_coach
    GameCube sales, as of September 30 2006, Nintendo has shipped a total of 21 million Nintendo GameCube units worldwide. Christ, sounds like alot of consoles... right?

    Right. That is alot of consoles sold. How about the Sony PlayStation 2? Over 105 million units shipped worldwide by March 31, 2006. Oh... okay! So that means only about five times more PS2s were shipped than Nintendo flagship home console.
    I have a friend who's on his third PS2, the other ones having died for little or no reason. I have two other friends who are both on their first PS2 consoles, but who are always fighting with them or berating them because they're not working properly. Meanwhile, my little sister jumped on the controller cords for my Gamecube and slammed it hard onto the hardwood floor, popping the top open and launching SSBM out of it. Not only does my Gamecube still work perfectly, but when I set it back up and put the game back in, it was still playing exactly where I'd left it. It waited until I'd completed my current game to give me an error message, and then worked like normal after one restart. I doubt those are exactly standard scenarios, but still, part of the reason Nintendo has lower home console sales is because once you buy a Nintendo console, you will never have to buy that console again in your life. You could take a bat to it and it'd still work.

    It's not that SONY doesn't make a profit from their gaming division, it's just in a much shadier way than Nintendo does. Considering that the customer (*gasp*, that's me o_o) and the people working for the benefits of those customers (see: Lik-Sang) are generally the ones on the business end of that shady behaviour, I tend to prefer Nintendo overall. I do love my PSP, but even then, that's only because I use it in a way that SONY really hates, and would like to see stopped. If you took homebrew away from the PSP? God, what would be the point.

    Hm, no spellcheck huh? Well, I'll just keep my fingers crossed then. This be my first post here.

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    PSX won the console war for its generation
    PS2 won the console war the current generation (and isn't dying any time soon)
    PS3 will win the console war the next generation.

    I'm not a fanboy and I could careless who outsells who. In the end, it's about what YOU like. But yeah, Sony always comes out top as far as consoles.

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    Man why hate. "Cant we all just get along!!!!" First of all I dont know why its become a national pastime here to hate sony. I realise that when your on top there will be haters but this is rediculous lol. When did it become about just liking a company instead of liking games. I hate sony as a company. BUT I also hate nintendo and microsoft as companies also. Nintendo were always greedy in the past using there own formats so game develpers would have to buy them. To add to that those formats aka cartidges were way more expensive than cd's did nintendo care nope. Microsoft never even attempts to cater to there japanese or just rpg fans. The just bring out shooter after shooter. Sony I dont think is any worse than them its just that when your on top for so long people cant wait for you to fail. Kinda like Michael Jordan, people always want kobe to surpass him....Aint happenin. Anyways I your gonna hate a system make sures its because of the games not because of the company because all companies are corrupt.

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    Like Makaveli777 said, it's all about the games in the end. And this is why Sony always comes out top. No matter how much you may hate them as a company, they always have a large variety of games to choose from. There's something for everyone when you buy a PS console. They also have the most exclusives. The $600 price tag is really steep, but the great upcoming games will hopefully make up for it. But until that price goes down, I won't be buying a PS3 myself.

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    And Nintendo not wishing to make their consoles play DVDs and CDs is due to the fact that they want their games on a proprietary medium. And looking at the figures Judas Coach provided, it almost makes perfect sense:

    1)Nintendo has a substantially less market prowess as Microsoft and Sony
    2)Nintendo only makes games and consoles unlike Microsoft and Sony

    What does this mean? If Nintendo ever released a system that utilized a common medium for games (DVD, CD, etc) they would surely go bankrupt because of piracy.

    And they'd have nothing to fall back on. They learned from the Dreamcast demise. Sure it sucks for developers but its something that is needed for them to survive.

    If gamecube used CDs or DVDs, I gurantee there would be no Nintendo to release the Wii...

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    Quote Originally Posted by F9zDark View Post
    And Nintendo not wishing to make their consoles play DVDs and CDs is due to the fact that they want their games on a proprietary medium. And looking at the figures Judas Coach provided, it almost makes perfect sense:

    1)Nintendo has a substantially less market prowess as Microsoft and Sony
    2)Nintendo only makes games and consoles unlike Microsoft and Sony

    What does this mean? If Nintendo ever released a system that utilized a common medium for games (DVD, CD, etc) they would surely go bankrupt because of piracy.

    And they'd have nothing to fall back on. They learned from the Dreamcast demise. Sure it sucks for developers but its something that is needed for them to survive.

    If gamecube used CDs or DVDs, I gurantee there would be no Nintendo to release the Wii...

    /\ /\ Sage words... I have a Gamecube and think its great and I WILL be buying a Wii PS2 sold alot but its a far inferior console all things considered Nintendo will release a solidly built console and release some great games for it at a sensible price - I doubt the same will be said for $ony Can anyone think of a time where they've thought "Damn I hate Nintendo"? - No? I'll bet theres been many times when youve thought "Damn I hate $ony"

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_nick666 View Post
    /\ /\ Sage words... I have a Gamecube and think its great and I WILL be buying a Wii PS2 sold alot but its a far inferior console all things considered Nintendo will release a solidly built console and release some great games for it at a sensible price - I doubt the same will be said for $ony Can anyone think of a time where they've thought "Damn I hate Nintendo"? - No? I'll bet theres been many times when youve thought "Damn I hate $ony"
    How is the ps2 "far inferior" to gamecube? I know console sells dont necessarily mean a better system but far inferior? If your talking about graphics and processor then yes its inferior. BUT the Wii will have less graphics and processor than both xbox 360 and ps3 and that doesnt make it inferior. Its all about the games yall. Oh and sony's ps2 is at a sensible price right now with great games.

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