Religion

[the_eternal_dark]

i wonder why.......

Because stores wouldn't be able to advertise for any good reason then (atleast on a global scale)??

It's good to see you all still follow a religion. I on the other hand still see it as more of a crutch.

Everyone has something wrong in their religion it seems.

Believe what you all want, I'm not here to sway one way or another or judge, that's just not me. I support all of your (dcemu members) choices.

You all are probably the closest thing I've had to a family in the longest time.

[XioN980]

for me the presence of a god is clear. i dont try and do good for fear of punishment i do it for fear of letting him down. he made us with the free will to choice good or evil even though he didnt have to. its the least we can do to be good since a certain someone did die for me and you individually... i am a christian but i am not a baptist or a Methodist or any other ist. there is NO denomination that is wholly correct and therefore i am not a part of any of them officially.

Im with this guy too. Why bother being a denomination when you can just be Christian? All the denominations have problems. Why not just Believe. The Catholic Church states that you must earn a place in heaven, but, that is no where in the bible.

Methodists allow Homosexuality which is an abomination by the bible.

And BTW All the religions are NOT the same, again Catholicisism. The concept of a one world religion is very very wrong. For example:

People say Islam and Christianity are the same, thats bull:

Allah had no son.
Allah had three Daughters
God is not called the Moon God
Jesus is not a prophet in the eye's of Christians

Big diffenrences

Thats my two pennies worth :thumbup:

[the_eternal_dark]

Im with this guy too. Why bother being a denomination when you can just be Christian? All the denominations have problems. Why not just Believe. The Catholic Church states that you must earn a place in heaven, but, that is no where in the bible.

1. Methodists allow Homosexuality which is an abomination by the bible.

And BTW All the religions are NOT the same, again Catholicisism. The concept of a one world religion is very very wrong. For example:

2. People say Islam and Christianity are the same, thats bull:

Allah had no son.
Allah had three Daughters
God is not called the Moon God
Jesus is not a prophet in the eye's of Christians

Big diffenrences

Thats my two pennies worth :thumbup:

1. So is premarital sex...

2. It's also a matter of translation and interpretation as well.

[jman420]

ok so check this out...

being gay is no problem with me... although I avoid gay people as though they were the plague.. I care not who they wish to have sex with...

however, I look at christianity and think of how they are the true cause of stereotypes and problems...

even here you have stated that christianity is the best of all religions, and yet, have no reason to think this..

you say that there are differences between christianity and islam.. this is not an issue, this is not a fact, we understand this.. because if islam was at all similar, christians would have taken the religion and turned it into their own religion...

I believe that this universe is ours, and that (strange as it may seem) we are the only real intellegent beings in it... however, intellegence is only thought of as how we as humans think...

if we looked at the rest of the universe, its possible that we could find other beings.. but where did this idea of God come from?

the idea of god came from a group of lost, confused humans, lost in the idea of "Why do we exist?" and "What is the reason we are here?" God answers these questions as an example for A. we exist because God made us. and B. We are here to go to heaven...

now let me ask these two things..

What is the reason that God created us?

and

Why would we want to go to heaven?


if you look at these two questions you can see the true flaw in creationism..

if God were to exist (hypatheticly) then we would be pawns in some large battle between the God of good, and the God of evil.. if you look at the christian bible, you will see that the reason we exist is merely to create an ego boost to the good god by prooving that infact, we overcame the problems of evil.. but if the God that may or may not exist was truly all powerful, why would God ask this of us without any warning or information.. we are truly lost within this world trying to be ethical people, while merely working under these flawed ideas of perfection...

I may be ranting on to a group that doesnt care, and doesent feal the way that I do, but never the less, I feal that my philosophical questions need to be answered and perfected before I submit my ideas to the rest of the world...


but moving along...

question number two... "Why would we want to go to heaven?"

if all of humanity made it to the christian heaven, we would all co-exist in a world filled with the same people that may have caused us problems before we came to heaven...

the same ideas would still exist, sex, drugs, money, mental modification (via drugs) and the idea of wanting somthing better...

if I were to exist in heaven would it be any different then my life now? how can we compare the world beyond our own lives to the world that we exist in now?

why is it that people want somthing better then the (it may be sad, but true) then the world that we live in now?

the world that we exist in is the only world that we will ever have.. its the only thing that we will ever have as our own, there is all this grandure over heaven and hell, but in reality, why dont peope try to make the world a better place for the rest of humanity?

I recently had a good laugh about a pastor at a church in Colorado here that bought crystal meth, and prostitution from a male drug dealer.. is this the model that you want for your religion? is that the model of ethicly just people that tell you the rights and wrongs of the world? I want to know why the humans that believe in religions so deeply that they will give up their humanity for the mythical Gods that they believe in, that they will completely look past the wrongs that are happening inside their own (cult)...

I dont want to upset people in here by the way, I simply want people to look at the words I say, and understand reality.. the laws stated in The Bible, and all other readings, are simply words written by humans, reflecting their image of what God would want, if God existed..

the words have also been changed, and condenced only to cover up the things said in the past.. many of the parts of the original Bible have been taken out to controll the people of the world...

personaly, I choose to live for myself, and all humans... I want to live my life to the fullest, do whatever I can to keep myself happy without harming others, and try to make the world better for those that follow me.. I dont want to make waves, I simply want to be heard..

the words that you may have heard about the ethics of religion are flawed.. the idea throughout religion has been to pull the wool over the eyes of humanity simply in order to controll the population by a means of 'hearding' the people to another thought process..

if you consider the means by which The Bible has been created, you will see how it was written over a very large ammount of time, and changed constantly, simply to keep the ideas of the people kept as wrong, in order to heard us to safety..


please dont anybody ban me, I am simply putting my two cents across, I am not causing problems, simply creating questions, and stating the things that I have seen in humanity over the years that religion has been flourishing...


and as a closing statement:
religious people are sheep, and religion is their shepard...

[VampDude]

but where did this idea of God come from?

a group of people who wanted to impose laws and have people either fear or look upto something, they were obviously stupid enough to believe as back then people would believe just about anything...

...before war and terrorism, which started thousands of years later. they would believe things like things would fall from the skies and that natural disasters such as hurricanes and floods and Thunder/Lightningwere the act of a god against them for being bad or committing sins and blah blah, they lived in fear of what they were told and did'nt understand and lead to believe

it's common sense!

[mesosade]

There is one quite simple way to put it. If there was no religion there would be no war and terrorism. BUT it would casue chaos. what would stop someone from commiting murder or a sin knowing they;re not going to hell beacause it doesn;t exist there would be NO moral laws really.

[XioN980]

1. So is premarital sex...

2. It's also a matter of translation and interpretation as well.

Although many things are that is not.

In all original languages that scripture in any religion it still carries a similar meaning. The roots of Islam exist with temples to A Moon God, who later became known as Allah. This Moon God had daughters which became known as Godesses. Nothing like this in ANY language Implicit or Explicit alike messages is related to the Christian/Jewish God. These two religons share the same god as the noly difference between Orthadox Jew's and Christians/Messianic Jews is that they dont have a new testament in the Jewish Bible. The Jewish Bible is basically the old Testament of the Chrisitan Bible.


BTW: The most accurite translation from the original Biblical Languages (Greek and Hebrew) Is the King James Edition. The only reason the Pope had it translated to Latin in Medieval times was so poor men couldn't read it.

[Accordion]

ok so check this out...

...and as a closing statement:
religious people are sheep, and religion is their shepard...

wow, such irony is painful !

hippopotamusocrit!!!

the gay thing was lies!, and if you cannot see the similarities between your fundamentalist approach on philoshopy and you direct mirrowing of standardized religion...it is a true shame.

when you state the names of those you take your ethics from, how is it different from any other appropriation of belief !

it is a shame you cannot be open minded enough to see the cage you have put yourself within, and to break free just a little, merely to see that appropriation is a nesseciaty and will never be escaped, that is where things start to become interesting. and you can begin to make desicisions based on all rather than one!!

remember; truth is impossible, butthe aspiration to truth, may be the ultimate goal of man

[the_eternal_dark]

Although many things are that is not.

In all original languages that scripture in any religion it still carries a similar meaning. The roots of Islam exist with temples to A Moon God, who later became known as Allah. This Moon God had daughters which became known as Godesses. Nothing like this in ANY language Implicit or Explicit alike messages is related to the Christian/Jewish God. These two religons share the same god as the noly difference between Orthadox Jew's and Christians/Messianic Jews is that they dont have a new testament in the Jewish Bible. The Jewish Bible is basically the old Testament of the Chrisitan Bible.


BTW: The most accurite translation from the original Biblical Languages (Greek and Hebrew) Is the King James Edition. The only reason the Pope had it translated to Latin in Medieval times was so poor men couldn't read it.

Wasn't it written by Shakespeare?

[jman420]

wow, such irony is painful !

hippopotamusocrit!!!

the gay thing was lies!, and if you cannot see the similarities between your fundamentalist approach on philoshopy and you direct mirrowing of standardized religion...it is a true shame.

when you state the names of those you take your ethics from, how is it different from any other appropriation of belief !

it is a shame you cannot be open minded enough to see the cage you have put yourself within, and to break free just a little, merely to see that appropriation is a nesseciaty and will never be escaped, that is where things start to become interesting. and you can begin to make desicisions based on all rather than one!!

remember; truth is impossible, butthe aspiration to truth, may be the ultimate goal of man

wow, that is realy funny dude, you argue exactly the same way I would.. however, with you and your open minded cage theory, I will say that you, are similar in the same way... you too are held within a cage of thought, unable to escape... so if you dont mind, I dont need to be attacked, just argued with lol...


by the way, I was plastered when I wrote that last post, so its possible that not all things made sence my bad...

truth, the final frontier?
I dont see how truth can be untrue... you see, truth is just a part of logic. there are many ways of telling wether or not things are in fact, true...

many of these ways just have to do with understanding of the subject..

if you ask your friend "are you an idiot?!" what is the truth? they will reply "hellz no ya panz!" but in your mind, you stated they're idiocity by suggesting that they were.. so you stated they were an idiot, they replied that they werent, where is the truth??

either way...

Accordianboy... have you ever taken a single philosophy class?? if not, its not right for you to be arguing about it...