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[F9zDark]

On to the policies of the board.. I agree, they're totally BS. It's alright to rip PSX games and cart ROMs, but god-forbid someone even talk about a DS, GBA, or PSP rom. Oh, heavens no. It's okay to get ISOs on other systems, but those? No, illegal.

If you want to argue that DCEMU says that you can't talk about obtaining copies of current media, consider this: PSP Revolution releases copyrighted MP3s with it. So, yeah, that argument's screwed.

Thats what I can't stand man, its such a hypocrisy. Downloading ROMs whether you own them or not, is still supporting a pirate; because the person who ripped it and then is distributing it, is distributing it illegally.

So if there is a full on ban of ISOs, then follow suit with emulation and roms entirely. Don't make the distinction for one and deny it for another. And as I pointed out, there ARE uses to having the ISO from a UMD one owns; the battery life on a PSP is horrible when the UMD drive needs to work; such is alleviated when one uses an ISO of the same game.

[cloud_952]

Definitely. And, more so, what's the hurt of learning how to RIP an ISO? o_O Clearly, I have access to the game if I'm ripping it. I can kinda see the argument against telling people what to do with an ISO once you had it (could've gotten it from the internet), but hey, be smart and figure that one out. But ripping an ISO? This is just getting pathetic.

[m0th]

HAHA! Wow cloud and dark just owned.. thanks you two... very valid points. the thing I don't get is "still supporting a pirate"...F9zDark. Pirates/crews just do it cos they can, they dont make money off any of it at all, they hack, crack and post cos they can. I know $#@! about hacking and cracking but if someone comes onto the boards asking all sorts of TABOO questions, yeah Ima gonna say SHHHH!!!! to protect the board and maybe thats what the mods want too. As long as the person shuts the hell up, PMs me.. ill help em cos than its between me and them and not dcemu. Look at the bigass picture, this site IS the number one spot where new devhook news comes from. Devhook has already been in Sonys sights for quite sometime. DCEMU is keeping a low stat pro.. so just respect it.

[pibs]

ha this quickly got off topic...... btw its only if u own the rights to the game that u can rip, and distribute it and not if u own the game. But as for the whole umd dumps forbidden talk, it does make sense because its not like ur gona run it on another system, mostly all the roms and iso talk is to emulate it on a system completely different from the one it was originated to run on, yet umd dumps will of course run on the psp and not another cosole.

the way i see it is that its more of a dev issue, if we run copied/dumped games on the original console it automatically looks like piracy. yet if we run a completely different platform game on a console it looks more like tinkering with the system and involves development of software to see what else that system can do... haha just flame away if u think im wrong but its just my opinion on these things

[dejkirkby]

its only if u own the rights to the game that u can rip, and distribute it and not if u own the game.

Thank you pibster. You backed up my point perfectly.

[splodger15]

Mod please lock

[Cloudhunter]

Mod please lock

This has been left open to prove a point I think.

But the main difference between PS1 ripping, and PSP ripping is this.

a mystical thing called the EULA, which most people don't read.

One of the clauses of the EULA states this.

The EULA (End User License Agreement) states you are allowed one copy.

And that copy is on the umd. You can not legally backup a umd, because as soon as you do, you have 2 copies, and your licence to own the original UMD is void, meaning it is now illegal for you to play the UMD even from the original disc, while you have 2 copies.

Cloudy

[dejkirkby]

AFter doing some reading up on the subject, I have found that currently in the UK it is illegal to have a back-up copy of ANY digital media you have purchased apart from music. No matter if it's a video DVD converted to avi or even a PSP UMD converted to ISO, it's still currently illegal. Music conversion was only relaxed very recently. So no matter which way you look at it is illegal.

[gamerremag]

ripping games that you've rented is illegal thou, so technically ripping is illegal!

i cant rent psp games where im from. i didnt know that you could. do you mean through that mail order thing?Its like the netflix for video games...i cant remember what its called

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Originally Posted by cloud_952 View Post
On to the policies of the board.. I agree, they're totally BS. It's alright to rip PSX games and cart ROMs, but god-forbid someone even talk about a DS, GBA, or PSP rom. Oh, heavens no. It's okay to get ISOs on other systems, but those? No, illegal.

what if you have a game, but its scratched enough for you not to be able to get a good rip, but good enough to play? its not illegal to copy games that you own, right? well, long as you arent distributing them.

thread still not closed....and i got into trouble for double posting. :0

[SSaxdude]

Ok, let's not into the whole "any ripping is bad." Because if you were to live with that mentality, you couldn't rip mp3s from your CDs, yet everybody does it. Then you would be hypocritical.

As for the legality of dumping isos, the police wouldn't give a damn. All they care about is donuts, people loitering in front of stores, and people smoking weed (god forbid we harm ourselves!) Only the federal government would arrest pirates.

dejkirkby, ratting out people is not cool, unless they are a rapist or killer.