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[gamerremag]

ripping isnt illegal, because you own the game, its downloading games you dont own thats illegal.

u pirate

[dejkirkby]

****ing noobs better start reading the ****ing rules! You lazy people piss me off. I've a good mind to send your IP address to the law. Stop asking for help with goddamn ISO's.

[Elven6]

****ing noobs better start reading the ****ing rules! You lazy people piss me off. I've a good mind to send your IP address to the law. Stop asking for help with goddamn ISO's.

What if he owns the game hes making a back up for? Unless hes is really a pirate!

[cloud_952]

****ing noobs better start reading the ****ing rules! You lazy people piss me off. I've a good mind to send your IP address to the law. Stop asking for help with goddamn ISO's.

Umm.. o_o wow, that comment just reeks of said "noob"-ness.

You DO realize that the law doesn't care if I talk about ripping an ISO on a message board, right? I don't support the usage of ISOs, nor do I have any intention to talk about them here. But seriously.. the very insinuation that you could get me in trouble over talking about such subjects online is absurd. I could walk into a police station and rip an ISO in front of them and they wouldn't care.

Would you also mind telling me who "the law" is? O_o Not sure where you are, but we have a whole slew of levels of government, laws, and agencies. I don't think there's a simple e-mail address for [email protected]

[splodger15]

I could walk into a police station and rip an ISO in front of them and they wouldn't care.

Ok walk into a police station and download a ISO and see what they do

[cloud_952]

Ok walk into a police station and download a ISO and see what they do

I'm not sure what people aren't getting. Yes, copyright infringement is against the law, but it's not something that a local police dept. will arrest you over. Copyright infringement is a federal law, and as such, generally involves federal investigators (read: FBI), though this is not totally required.

However, the police dept. has better things to do than arrest you and try you for the crime. They will not, I promise you, arrest you for ripping a DVD or downloading an ISO right in front of them. First off, the police officer may or may not even understand what you're doing or the legality issues. Second, THEY DO NOT CARE. o_o

Seriously, a vague concept of law should clear this up. This reminds me of the conversations you have in the fourth grade, where people think 'the law' is some mystical force.

Gah.

[m0th]

Ok walk into a police station and download a ISO and see what they do

Too funny. People that look at piracy as some horrible crime, really irritate me with their holier than thou additude. So what's worse, going into a store and stealing a whole bunch of games or going online and downloading them? If anyone says that they are equally just as bad, you should get punched in the teeth.

[F9zDark]

Too funny. People that look at piracy as some horrible crime, really irritate me with their holier than thou additude. So what's worse, going into a store and stealing a whole bunch of games or going online and downloading them? If anyone says that they are equally just as bad, you should get punched in the teeth.

As far as the law is concerned they aren't really the same, but in terms of incurred loss to the game company and store that sells them, they are indeed the same thing; either way, someone is getting a game without paying for it; it just so happens that the physical act of stealing is a crime that local authorities will and often do punish, whereas downloading a game is not.

Such is why downloading is a much better proposition for those wishing to steal games: its relatively safe without much risk.

To the others mentioning "No ISO talk" why is it that backing up UMDs is such a huge issue when the powers that be here fully codone ripping PSOne games into ISO format for the homebrew PSOne emulators?

Emulation/Piracy go hand in hand and without Piracy, there would be no emulation whatsoever; I don't give a crap about how righteous yall think you are, if you download an SNES rom, whether you own the original or not, you are supporting a pirate.

This whole thing about ISO discussion is not as black and white as you all would like to believe it is; if you condone emulation of any kind (especially the kind that involves ISOs, as is the case with the PSOne emulator) then you shoudn't just immediately disavow any ISO discussion for other systems. There are plenty of benefits for using the ISO of a UMD that one owns rather than the UMD; conservation of power and reduction of load times.

But of course, being that ISO talk as it pertains to the PSP is just 'wrong' people wouldn't know that.

PS2-Dev has got it right; no ISO discussion WHATSOEVER, and they make no differentiation between good or bad; what bothers me is that here the distinction is made so long as it applies to the PSOne, but once its applied to the PSP its automatically this heinous crime...

[VampDude]

ripping is'nt illegal, because you own the game, it's downloading games you dont own that's illegal.

u pirate

ripping games that you've rented is illegal thou, so technically ripping is illegal!

[cloud_952]

ripping games that you've rented is illegal thou, so technically ripping is illegal!

Correct. It's illegal SOMETIMES. But not always. Under your logic, because I could use a screwdriver under some situations to kill people, all screwdrivers are illegal all the time.

Your logic is impeccable. Really.

On to the policies of the board.. I agree, they're totally BS. It's alright to rip PSX games and cart ROMs, but god-forbid someone even talk about a DS, GBA, or PSP rom. Oh, heavens no. It's okay to get ISOs on other systems, but those? No, illegal.

If you want to argue that DCEMU says that you can't talk about obtaining copies of current media, consider this: PSP Revolution releases copyrighted MP3s with it. So, yeah, that argument's screwed.

I don't really care either way. I think it's best for people to not talk about these issues entirely. Don't be stupid, use Google, and figure it out yourself.