DS Trampling PSP in Japan

[mikebeaver]

as long as you have a copy of mario kart an 2 DS's you dont need any other games for a very long time

[Cap'n 1time]

I dont know about "kid" games, but they have "kid friendly" games.. and I happen to enjoy most of those games. Also you psp fanboys can kick and scream all you want, regardless the DS is still DOMINATING the handheld market.

The kid friendly aspect of the DS is actually partially to blame for its enormous success. Does that mean the games suck? Obviously not as magazines and many of our own users will gladly step in and exclaim. You know we wouldnt play it if it sucked (like the oodles and oodles psp games that we dont own) .

The bottem line is, whether you agree or not the DS has kicked the psp's ass and taken names in the game department. Home brew games and emulators do nothing to make sony feel any better about their failure (as of 04-06 at least) of a console. You dont have to buy a DS, but you cannot deny that nintendo has dominated in both the average rating of the games and in sales numbers.

[irongiant]

For god's sake get a life. The PSP is NOT a failure, can't you understand that.. in your twisted Nintendo coloured world is a handheld device selling 25,000 units a week in Japan alone a failure?

It is not in direct competition with the DS, Sony and Nintendo have both stated they're aiming for a different demographic. The PSP is more expensive for a start and is a handheld multi media device, gaming is just one of the features it offers. It's more targetted at people who play games on mobile phones or have iPods and other handheld gadgets.

Still banging on about the PSP having poor games is really sad and pathetic, in fact here's some facts for you that prove you're talking garbage. From Metacritic:

PSP games reviewed with score 80/100 or above = 38
DS games reviewed with score 80/100 or above = 32

[jairolas]

PSP games reviewed with score 80/100 or above = 38
DS games reviewed with score 80/100 or above = 32

say 10 really good games for psp.

[the_eternal_dark]

For god's sake get a life. The PSP is NOT a failure, can't you understand that.. in your twisted Nintendo coloured world is a handheld device selling 25,000 units a week in Japan alone a failure?

It is not in direct competition with the DS, Sony and Nintendo have both stated they're aiming for a different demographic. The PSP is more expensive for a start and is a handheld multi media device, gaming is just one of the features it offers. It's more targetted at people who play games on mobile phones or have iPods and other handheld gadgets.

Still banging on about the PSP having poor games is really sad and pathetic, in fact here's some facts for you that prove you're talking garbage. From Metacritic:

PSP games reviewed with score 80/100 or above = 38
DS games reviewed with score 80/100 or above = 32

So you're telling us it is failing in a wide range of target markets then.

And your “facts” are from one website. My personal opinion with games that were reviewed is, many times, opposite of what reviewers say. There are times I can agree with them, but not many.

PSP does have some good games, some I like only for online purposes, some are great as single player only games.

My list of favorites from PSP:
Socom FTB 1&2 – online only, 2 has some good single player missions though
Loco Roco – the most “kid” game out there for PSP
Me and My Katamari – the second most “kid” friendly game for PSP
Gun – what else can I say, great game
Star Wars Battle Front II – I don’t care what any of you say, this game is fun (I don’t use all the controls, but I also don’t need to)
Infected – a zombie game for PSP that is also fun online (really), except it has Slipknot in it which kills it a little for me
MGS: PO – a game you HAVE to get if you have a PSP
MGA 1&2 – a “tactical” card game, fun stuff
Lumines – Sony’s attempt at Tetris, almost, but not quite there, still fun though
Tokobot – addicting, kind of like Pikmin, but portable (I’d love to see PikminDS)
Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror – another game you have to have if you have a PSP
Killzone: Liberation – a great twist on a great game

I’m sure that there are maybe 2 or 3 more that I have forgot about, but I’m also at work.

There are many more good DS games out there as well, some are listed above in my other post.

[irongiant]

So you're telling us it is failing in a wide range of target markets then..

What's your point? Define failing.. the PSP is also selling strongly in Europe and the USA. It's not selling as well as the DS but then i really don't believe anyone thought it would. The DS is incredibly successful and far surpassed expectations on sales figures but that doesn't mean that another handheld device is a failure because it hasn't sold as many. Was the XBox regarded as a failure? No it has been a success and has become the platform for MS to release the XBox360 which will undoubtably overtake the sales of the XBox. The PSP is the beginning, it won't be long before MS introduce their portable gaming device and Sony too with PSP2 or whatever then it will be interesting to see what happens.

And your “facts” are from one website. My personal opinion with games that were reviewed is, many times, opposite of what reviewers say. There are times I can agree with them, but not many.

Nope, their taken from Metacritic who add up the scores from all media reviews to come up with an average for each game. I'll take the views of 20 or 30 games reviewers over your opinion anyday. So based on your logic of not agreeing then most of the DS reviews are off the mark too then?

There are many more good DS games out there as well, some are listed above in my other post.

Nobody has said there aren't plenty of good games but based on the views of the gaming press, which strangely enough does hold some credibility, the PSP has a higher quality library of games currently available. Get over it and enjoy your games, i'm sure Nintendo couldn't care less with all the money they're making.

[F9zDark]

I believe Micro$#@! stopped making a handheld gaming device and opted for the Zune instead. Makes sense too, Micro$#@! has the power to go 'all Apple' on an MP3 player and offer native support and first party programs that work in Windows to jump on the bandwagon.

And ipods are far more popular than DS and PSP combined, if Microsoft can steal even a quarter of the ipod's market share, they have succeeded.

[irongiant]

No they definitely haven't stopped plans for a handheld gaming device, the Zune is a taster of whats to come as it already interracts with the 360. They're starting with an MP3 player then adding more products including a gaming device later on. MS want to dominate the handheld market from MP3 to gaming to Phones. They have the resources and money to do it as well.

[PSPFR3AK]

as long as you have a copy of mario kart an 2 DS's you dont need any other games for a very long time

as long as i already played mario kart a long time on snes and N64 there is no reason to play it again

[the_eternal_dark]

1. What's your point? Define failing.. the PSP is also selling strongly in Europe and the USA. It's not selling as well as the DS but then i really don't believe anyone thought it would. The DS is incredibly successful and far surpassed expectations on sales figures but that doesn't mean that another handheld device is a failure because it hasn't sold as many. Was the XBox regarded as a failure? No it has been a success and has become the platform for MS to release the XBox360 which will undoubtably overtake the sales of the XBox. The PSP is the beginning, it won't be long before MS introduce their portable gaming device and Sony too with PSP2 or whatever then it will be interesting to see what happens.



2. Nope, their taken from Metacritic who add up the scores from all media reviews to come up with an average for each game. I'll take the views of 20 or 30 games reviewers over your opinion anyday. So based on your logic of not agreeing then most of the DS reviews are off the mark too then?



3. Nobody has said there aren't plenty of good games but based on the views of the gaming press, which strangely enough does hold some credibility, the PSP has a higher quality library of games currently available. Get over it and enjoy your games, i'm sure Nintendo couldn't care less with all the money they're making.

1. Failing - not doing as well as Sony had hoped in the beginning. As a multimedia device, it's not touching much of the portable media player market (iPod video, portable DVD players, etc). As a gaming device, its far more expensive than its competitor, the DS/DSLite, has few "great" games that stand out, and suffers from long load times, all of which can damage interest in the PSP. Most PDA's and Cell phones can play music, videos (although not as long or of a good quality), and surf the internet, but one up the PSP because it is useful in everyday life as well (you can't really call anyone with a PSP to set up meetings and text messaging is good for in class (college) communication (cheating).

If Microsoft does introduce a handheld, it won't do well as it will be competing with 2 veterans in the handheld business. PSP2 had better get a better design; hand cramps are apparantly common with the current PSP if you don't know how to hold it right.

Xbox compared to the Gamecube: success. Xbox compared to PS2: it was owned, up until its last few moments as a console. I think it had to do something with the size, noise, or the random overheating/crashing reports of some Xboxes. Microsoft had it easy with their console, they only had to beat another console to get their name in the door, and it just happened to be Nintendo's Gamecube (Nintendo was the old timer in the biz, good job for a newb console).

2. Like I said, it should be up to your own opinion, not anyone elses. People are easily swayed by money, free stuff, lapdances, etc and people are gamers/reviewers too. Personally, I could care less if anyone liked my opinions, but there is one thing I know: I like doing my own reviews.

3. Keywords - some credibility. Higher quality, maybe in graphics, but not very many "fun" games though. That again is just my personal opinion, as was your answer was apparantly yours. I'm sure Nintendo, Microsoft, nor Sony care what we really think of them, but only that we buy their products to keep their wallets fat, which I contribute more than enough of my money to all 3 companies for first and third party software titles. I'll have fun any way I can, regardless of reviews by others.