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    I'm jumping to splodger's defence here.
    Recently, I was absolutely lamblasted in two seperate threads on this issue. In British copyright law, it is ILLEGAL to have any copies of digital media, aside from the one copy you purchased. even if you make a back-up with all good intentions, it is still illegal. The only exception is with music. You can now rip and encode your music for PERSONAL USE ONLY. This exception was only relaxed a week or so ago.
    So we are not being holier than thou. And why is it such a bad thing to frown at law-breaking. Whether we like or agree to the law, we have to abide by it.
    If someone held up a shop at gunpoint, or beat someone up in the street or downloads an iso, they are all law-breakers. But yet you all jump to the defence of the downloader. Why is that? Has he not still broke the law?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejkirkby View Post
    If someone held up a shop at gunpoint, or beat someone up in the street or downloads an iso, they are all law-breakers. But yet you all jump to the defence of the downloader. Why is that? Has he not still broke the law?

    LOL. I'm not even going to comment on my opinion on this subject. but c'mon, lets not get rediculous with the examples. There is a HUGE difference between violent and non violent crimes. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shizzy View Post
    LOL. I'm not even going to comment on my opinion on this subject. but c'mon, lets not get rediculous with the examples. There is a HUGE difference between violent and non violent crimes. LOL
    Maybe the examples are exagerated, but the point is they are all crimes yet a lot people on this site jump to defend the downloader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by m0th View Post

    Oh yeah to Splodger and everyone like you, stop with the holier than thou stuff. I don't know where you live but in America police have better things to do than give a $#@! about piracy. A crime is only a crime when someone actually feels violated and decides to do something about it.
    There is crime all over the world NOT JUST IN AMERICA

    Because it sounds like what your saying is there is just crime in America

    Open your eyes and read the news for once the whole world has crime in it.

    PSN ID: splodger15

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    Quote Originally Posted by dejkirkby View Post
    Maybe the examples are exagerated, but the point is they are all crimes yet a lot people on this site jump to defend the downloader.


    I know bro. I'm just saying it's laughable to compare someone who illegaly downloads a game to a violent criminal. There is a big difference there. That was my only point. Other than that, I completley agree with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Shizzy View Post
    I know bro. I'm just saying it's laughable to compare someone who illegaly downloads a game to a violent criminal. There is a big difference there. That was my only point. Other than that, I completley agree with you.
    Thanks. Over the last few days, I've kinda felt isolated on afew of these threads for not condoning or tolerating piracy.

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    I just wanted to say I think the only reason you would've felt that way was because you came a across a hypocrite.
    I'm sure you remember the comment I made. (However I'm not sure if you read the fact I attempted to take those same words back because you said you simply have made a mistake in the past. this concidering the thread was deleted)
    I am not a bad person I just hate people measuring with 2 different sizes which makes me want to jump in the discussion.

    Back on topic,
    This thread is dead-on. For one I hate the fact that one thing is allowed yet the other is not.
    Basicly when you use an emulator/modchip to run a region protected movie in the PSP would be Illegal in most countries (australia recently changed this and makes a pioneer out of itself if you ask me)
    The region protection is a play in a monopoly game and is asking for trouble.

    Also recently someone said the reason game prices are expensive is because of hackers/pirates.
    I believe it's the other way around.
    I take myself for example, I am not lying when I say I test games by downloading them because I do own UMD's. Then after I buy I also place the games on my stick to be able to take more games with me with less carrying space.
    I know none of you have to believe me but I feel if prices weren't so high the games would be sold in a larger number.
    I always wait to buy a game second hand.

    To say something about mentioning these things here without causing "torrent-spamming" it seems to work well at maxconsole in my knowledge.
    Nobody talks of download sites yet everyone talks of ripping.

    I feel I'm jammering so I'll shut up for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flying_dutchman View Post

    Basicly when you use an emulator/modchip to run a region protected movie in the PSP would be Illegal in most countries (australia recently changed this and makes a pioneer out of itself if you ask me)
    The region protection is a play in a monopoly game and is asking for trouble.
    What emulator are you using that allows the use of different region UMD movies? I was'nt aware of any.

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    I tried to reply to you in the other thread, but it got locked. I remember the comment and also the half-hearted apology. I genuinely had never heard of "unclekracker" until I was given the link to the DevHook Installer, and I certainly never knew what kind of things he did. As I said, I will be wary of all rar's and zips with that as a password.
    But the fact is I don't need your opinion to validate that I like to live my life in the constraints of the law. Anyone else's actions are their own business, I have nor wish to have any control over them. The only people I look out for are my family and I.
    I enjoy this site and the fact that it tries, although sometimes fails, to stay legal. This is a rare thing in the internet age nowadays. And I, along with several, albeit uncommonly silent members would like it to stay that way. Like I said I have absolutely no qualms with virus.exe. In fact I believe he to be quite a talented coder. I just questioned the format he decided to display these talents. Likewise, you seem to be quite an intelligent person and I certainly don't want a flame war with you, but I try to keep legal and don't feel I should be hounded for it, despite the fact I made an error of judgement regarding the DevHook installer.

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    And you are absolutely right. Flaming you for keeping up legal activities is just plain wrong.
    As for my "half-hearted apology" I just can't help questioning the users of applications like Devhook.
    But I tried before and I'll say it again; If you speak the truth about obtaining that particular file then with this a Heartfelt Apology.

    But don't you agree that even if it is illegal to make a backup it's laws are just an outrage?
    I'm not talking about downloading I understand your stand on that.
    But backing up what you own does not hurt anyone.
    And to allow sharing Devhook promotes the use of backups because in my knowledge about 90% of it's users have it for that purpose.
    So why allow emulators but at the same time condemn talk about ISO's?

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