1st FW2.82 UMD Game DOESN'T work with DevHook ?

[wasbourbonbot]

In most countries with a base of common law
EULA 's are meaningless
you can not be coerced into a contract or agreement
after a sale has been made.
EULA's should be illegal as they appear at installation of software which can only be done after
opening of a product, at which point they can not be returned unless defective.
There is also the rule of non contract with minors.
You hear of "always read the fineprint" well if software producers hide the fine print behind the "you open it you own it" what rights do any of us have?
Then again legality of software backup is in place to be able to prosecute those that do the wrong thing.
I doubt anyone has been fined or convicted for using a backup when they own the original.

[rebuiltearth]

Please stop arguing about this, its totally legal. The Official EULA for all PSP games states that you are not allowed to make copies of the games, only one, single back-up copy of the games. This includes ISO's since its kind of imposible to burn a UMD. Creating an ISO is legal as long as you dont distribute it and you only copy it as a back-up for yourself.

Frankly your arguing is getting annoying, please stop. And while you're at it, learn how to read legal documents a little better so you don't make a stupid mistake like this again.

[cloud_952]

you are allowed a back-up copy, but not an ISO.

What does that even mean? o_o I'm not trying to start an argument, but I seriously have no idea what you mean there.

An ISO is a backup. It's a disk image, a copy, a "backup", if you will. If I were to "backup" a cd, I can do it with an *.iso, *.bin, or one of many other formats. On what grounds are you distinguishing between an "iso" and "backup"? What else would your backup be if not an iso? Would it be drawn on paper with crayons?

[deftonesmx17]

Good find. I retract part of my statement. you are allowed a back-up copy, but not an ISO.

Please enlighten me on another way to make a back-up of a UMD..........

[darthhaze420]

has any one tried sd vs raw or blitz on dev hook 0.46 i have 0.51 emulating 3.01 flashed and the 2 games do not work

[the_eternal_dark]

What does that even mean? o_o I'm not trying to start an argument, but I seriously have no idea what you mean there.

An ISO is a backup. It's a disk image, a copy, a "backup", if you will. If I were to "backup" a cd, I can do it with an *.iso, *.bin, or one of many other formats. On what grounds are you distinguishing between an "iso" and "backup"? What else would your backup be if not an iso? Would it be drawn on paper with crayons?

An ISO is not a backup. A back-up or copy would mean you would have to load it onto a write once media (UMD-R) or re-writeable media (UMD-RW). Since both do not exist (yet), making an ISO (the load times may be quicker, but it's a crap reason to make one) is not a legal way to make a copy. You can't play a backed up UMD on a computer (game, emulators don't count) or a car radio (audio) or a DVD player (video).

Technically, ROMs are big time illegal, as you can't really make a backup without A) dismantling the cartridge and B) without using a flash cart to be used on the said proprietary system. Disk games (CD-ROM/DVD-ROM based, except for GD-ROMS (which are illegal to backup) for the Dreamcast) are borderline and most of the time cannot be used without a modchip (xbox, and I believe the Saturn).

I may be wrong. My opinion may be as flawed as anyone else's.

[Basil Zero]

hmm interesting....seems like sony's really trying hard lol

[cloud_952]

An ISO is not a backup. A back-up or copy would mean you would have to load it onto a write once media (UMD-R) or re-writeable media (UMD-RW). Since both do not exist (yet), making an ISO (the load times may be quicker, but it's a crap reason to make one) is not a legal way to make a copy. You can't play a backed up UMD on a computer (game, emulators don't count) or a car radio (audio) or a DVD player (video).

A "back-up" does not have to be on the same form. I can backup a cd to my PC, or I can back it up onto an audio cassette (old as they may be). I can backup my old VHS movies onto a DVD. Do you see where I'm coming from? To backup my games, I don't need to rip them and write them again to a different UMD, I can own them in a myriad of forms.

I can also run this ISO off of my PSP, which makes your final point null and void, in that I can use this backup in the original system.

[Edit]Case in point: the Xbox can run games from the HDD as can the PS2 w/ the HDD attachment. The PSP can run games from WIFI or USB networking, or from memory stick. You do NOT need to run it off the same medium for it to count.[/Edit]

Technically, ROMs are big time illegal, as you can't really make a backup without A) dismantling the cartridge and B) without using a flash cart to be used on the said proprietary system. Disk games (CD-ROM/DVD-ROM based, except for GD-ROMS (which are illegal to backup) for the Dreamcast) are borderline and most of the time cannot be used without a modchip (xbox, and I believe the Saturn).

I may be wrong. My opinion may be as flawed as anyone else's.

Are you insane? Or have you not done any research before opening your mouth and stating your opinion as fact?

I don't have to dismantle the cartridge to make most, if not all, backups. All cart-based games can be backed-up by using a card-reader, which requires no dismantling. Just plug it in, read the data and copy it to the PC. Pretty cut and dry. Never once have to take the cart apart. As for chipping the console, according to current US laws, NOT ILLEGAL. ^^ All it does is void my warranty. If I don't intend to ask the company to fix it for me, it's really not a problem.

So.. as far as I can tell, you're wrong on all points. Where did you get your info?

[hacksparrow]

can we keep with the list of non workin games so we can have a better newer devhook pls thx