I'm Shocked...

**m0th** · December 21st, 2006, 03:54

Uhm.. Dreamcast IS dead. Jus cos you are out a couple 100 bones dont mean you gotta resurrect an already doomed system. And the games you mentioned... Im just assuming they're just japanese ta english ports.. RIGHT? RPGs/SSFs with 2D sprites but translated to english.... Specs alone... Dreamcast is crap ta PSP, Dreamcast is crap ta PSOne, Dreamcast is on par with N64 only with better gfx and sound but waaaaaay way less fun than N64. Last thing ta ground your face in the mud... Daedelus and PS1P... huh?... no DC emulator... wonder why.... No point! cos its crap

**the_eternal_dark** · December 21st, 2006, 04:05

Originally Posted by m0th

PSP has much more, but most of it is useless in my opinion.

Uhm... WOW! hey why don't you slap every PSP dever in the face and be prepared to get lynched by the rest of us?... wow... just.... WOW... I kinda like the fact I can listen to internet radio when im in range of a wifi AP, I can play NES, SNES, Genesis, Mame, GB, GBA and countless other Retro systems, I can browse the net without crippling my ability to run homebrew via DEVHOOK, ETC ETC.

How many of the same games do we really need? Do we need a drawing program or a word processor? Look at all the homebrew games and then look at all of the programs and apps. Do we really need some of them? Some are clones of other peoples work and others are abandoned after they are released or the coder doesn't release another work after finishing something. Things could be expanded. Sources could be handed out if the coder doesn't feel like finishing anymore of it instead of being lost forever or completely restarted.

I don't mean to sound like I'm sh*tting on people's work here, but there is a lot of things being abandoned that could turn out to be great.

Also, I wasn't saying anything about the emulators, devhook, or anything else, but cheat devices kill online play (like in Socom), and why listen to internet radio if you have IRShell where you can listen to your MP3's in game?

Sorry to make it sound that way m0th, but I'm sure you've seen more than 1 release for the PSP that you went "why in the hell?"

**F9zDark** · December 21st, 2006, 04:12

Originally Posted by the_eternal_dark

How many of the same games do we really need? Do we need a drawing program or a word processor? Look at all the homebrew games and then look at all of the programs and apps. Do we really need some of them? Some are clones of other peoples work and others are abandoned after they are released or the coder doesn't release another work after finishing something. Things could be expanded. Sources could be handed out if the coder doesn't feel like finishing anymore of it instead of being lost forever or completely restarted.

I don't mean to sound like I'm sh*tting on people's work here, but there is a lot of things being abandoned that could turn out to be great.

Also, I wasn't saying anything about the emulators, devhook, or anything else, but cheat devices kill online play (like in Socom), and why listen to internet radio if you have IRShell where you can listen to your MP3's in game?

Sorry to make it sound that way m0th, but I'm sure you've seen more than 1 release for the PSP that you went "why in the hell?"

It all depends on your preference. I did some work on getting the IR Keyboard driver that a member of PS2dev.org forums wrote and adding it to a word processor someone else wrote. Worked out pretty decently. However, when I tried to get some help on the project from the guys they kinda dropped off the face of the earth (since I am a C newb).

A word-processor is useless without a decent way to write on the PSP, which I made happen by combining the work of others (don't take this as me taking credit, when I released the program, I took no credit for it, since I merely put the two seperate programs together). Point is, different people look for different things, and while you may think many of what we have available on the PSP is useless, the fact that we have it at all (whether its useless or not) indicates that we have a great scene.

A homebrew scene should not be measured by what is used the most, but rather, by the diversity of what we have available.

Personally I don't like DC homebrew because I can't figure for the life of me on how to get the cds to burn properly.

**the_eternal_dark** · December 21st, 2006, 04:28

Originally Posted by m0th

Uhm.. Dreamcast IS dead. Jus cos you are out a couple 100 bones dont mean you gotta resurrect an already doomed system. And the games you mentioned... 1. Im just assuming they're just japanese ta english ports.. RIGHT? RPGs/SSFs with 2D sprites but translated to english.... Specs alone... 2. Dreamcast is crap ta PSP, Dreamcast is crap ta PSOne, Dreamcast is on par with N64 only with better gfx and sound but waaaaaay way less fun than N64. Last thing ta ground your face in the mud... Daedelus and PS1P... huh?... no DC emulator... wonder why.... No point! cos its crap

1. Yeah, some of them are, but the DC is better in the games market.

2. No DC emu for PSP, the PSP is not powerful enough, research it or let quzar tell you. And DC is better than PS1 and N64.

**SSaxdude** · December 21st, 2006, 04:32

Originally Posted by JKKDARK

Also, you can run THE SEGA SATURN BIOS on the Dreamcast

Like that does much
And you double posted!

jk

**the_eternal_dark** · December 21st, 2006, 04:42

Originally Posted by F9zDark

It all depends on your preference. I did some work on getting the IR Keyboard driver that a member of PS2dev.org forums wrote and adding it to a word processor someone else wrote. Worked out pretty decently. However, when I tried to get some help on the project from the guys they kinda dropped off the face of the earth (since I am a C newb).

A word-processor is useless without a decent way to write on the PSP, which I made happen by combining the work of others (don't take this as me taking credit, when I released the program, I took no credit for it, since I merely put the two seperate programs together). Point is, different people look for different things, and while you may think many of what we have available on the PSP is useless, the fact that we have it at all (whether its useless or not) indicates that we have a great scene.

A homebrew scene should not be measured by what is used the most, but rather, by the diversity of what we have available.

Personally I don't like DC homebrew because I can't figure for the life of me on how to get the cds to burn properly.

Yeah, the disk writing can be a pain in the ass, but it's worth it in the end.

I agree we have a big scene, but we do have some bad programs (fake downgraders, brickers, etc.) floating around, and things that don't need to be continuously released (like tetris clones or snake clones, we have enough of them!) or things that aren't all that useful right now.

I remember the IR keyboard driver well, thats a great idea, but I can see better uses than just a word proccessor, like if we get a good online chat program working or web surfing without the "virtual keyboard".

The wordprocessor right now is about as useless as the one on my iPod Nano (rockbox).

**JKKDARK** · December 21st, 2006, 05:08

Originally Posted by m0th

Uhm.. Dreamcast IS dead. Jus cos you are out a couple 100 bones dont mean you gotta resurrect an already doomed system. And the games you mentioned... Im just assuming they're just japanese ta english ports.. RIGHT? RPGs/SSFs with 2D sprites but translated to english.... Specs alone... Dreamcast is crap ta PSP, Dreamcast is crap ta PSOne, Dreamcast is on par with N64 only with better gfx and sound but waaaaaay way less fun than N64. Last thing ta ground your face in the mud... Daedelus and PS1P... huh?... no DC emulator... wonder why.... No point! cos its crap

HAHA Why you don't tell me that you are 12 years old? It's obvious that you are an ignorant kid that never had a Dreamcast :rofl:
Why don't you see the games released for both 6th generation consoles (dreamcast/playstation 2)? Grandia 2, Resident Evil Code: Veronica had better quality on the Dreamcast. How the fcuk you can say that the Playstation One or the Nintendo 64 were better if the PlayStation was WORSE than Dreamcast? You never played the Shenmue series? Or you are so kid and you do not have any idea about video games? Why don't you get a job and buy games and consoles? Please, don't talk about something that you never played because you will be a loser all your life.

**V3N0M** · December 21st, 2006, 05:40

Well i'm only 16 and i've been coding for about 8 months. In Visual Basic, C/C++, and of course LUA which currentaly i'm making a new game for the psp. Check Demon's old site out for progress on the new "Secret" game that I am currentaly coding along with Zion and Demon doing GFX. Anyways my point is not all coder's are really that old. Plus i enjoy my Dreamcast as much as I do my PSP. But if your looking for something that has a better set homebrew scene than the Dreamcast you should look into the Xbox scene. I'm picking up a used one in a few days and then modding the hell out of it. :thumbup:

**Baboon** · December 21st, 2006, 10:05

The DC might be an old system, but it still kicks ass! To compare a PSP to a DC is pretty weird though? lol ...there both totally different systems and each has its own fields of speciality.

I’ve also got a soft modded xbox, but to be honest I tend to play my DC more because some of the great games available on it!

What makes me laugh though is that a year or so ago arcade emulation wasn’t that great on the PSP and the programs we have running now would have seemed impossible back then. We kept getting posts in the PSP threads from GPX32 users saying that we should get their hand-held system instead of the PSP cause it was the best thing for emulation and the PSP was inferior! ...but now times have changed and the PSP seems to be kicking ass by emulating CPS1,2, MVS, Snes, GBA, Megadrive, N64 (I hope this isn’t dead?), plus all of the commercial games etc etc. I’m just glad I trusted my instinct and opted for the PSP.

We are very luck to have some very talented coders in the PSP homebrew scene right now, and because of this my PSP has become a emulator and homebrew dream machine.

Anyway, back on topic... DC and PSP for ever!