Wii Unscrambler released

[homebrew1973]

The ony reason I have ever been into homebrew is to play emulated console games like sness and genesis games. Now I can do that on the Wii anyway, so I see little point (for me personally) to wish that homebrew appears on it also. If it does, and if it also made piracy possible, then that would be a very sad day indeed.

Also to Critical_Impact, not every game system gets cracked, I have never heard of anyone successfully runnning a copied gamecube game. Am I wrong about this?

Afraid you are wrong matey, the GameCube has had mod-chips for a while and it`ll simply be a matter of time before they`ll be available for the Wii....

[ExInferis]

So if the wii and gc discs use the same optics then perhaps a gc with the lid off can be used to read wii discs using the old pso exploit. For educational purposes of course!

[hakibou24]

does this mean that we will be able to burn isos on cd and play them on the wii?

[compoman386]

Afraid you are wrong matey, the GameCube has had mod-chips for a while and it`ll simply be a matter of time before they`ll be available for the Wii....

So how are the games copied then, I thought that the discs were read "backwards" in a GC, making them impossible to properly read (or to burn a copy of it as there is no dvd burner that will record "backwards", so to speak)

Although there are indeed mod-chips available for the GC, as I understand it these are only capable of allowing play on games from different regions, rather than copied games.

BTW I am not simply trying to contradict for the sake of it, just curious about this subject as it has come up several times lately amongst talk of possible Wii piracy

[Zion]

i personally hope the wii doesnt get cracked (for isos anyway)

i hope the ps3 does tho, cus i really hope nintendo kicks sonys ass this time

[Sektor]

So how are the games copied then, I thought that the discs were read "backwards" in a GC, making them impossible to properly read (or to burn a copy of it as there is no dvd burner that will record "backwards", so to speak)

They are not read backwards, the discs spin the same way as normal. That misinformation has spread to thousands of sites, so many people make that mistake.

It spread from peoples misinterpretation of the fact that the discs had data from the outside to the inside. People assumed that since the data was written in a backwards spiral, that it had to be read backwards but they were wrong.

The data is pressed to the outer rim of the disc first since optic drives read faster from the outer rim than the inner rim. Burners usually have to start from the inside of the disc but you can just burn dummy data until you get to the outer rim or you can take the speed lost and burn without a dummy file. GC games have been pirated for a long time but this is not the place to discuss how.

[compoman386]

Thanks for that info Sektor, I must admit that I had heard and belived the whole "backwards" thing without ever researching it properly, simply because it had been said by so many people. Fanx 4 clearing it up tho!

[the_eternal_dark]

1. GC cannot read Wii disks, they are too big (GC only read 1.4 or so gigs, the size of a mini DVD).

2. GC disks are read like normal, but have a strange data layout, making it hard to read by normal DVD burners (unless modded).

3. The only thing I use my Viper Extreme for is to load the SDLoad commands on my GC so I don't need an Action Replay to do so. It's also handy to load homebrew games, such as the uncompleted port of Doom (anyone know if the coder plans on finishing it?) or other projects as well. Not only that, the Viper Extreme is good for streaming via USB as well, to and from the ‘Cube (perfect for loading SNES9x if you have a crappy SD card).

4. I doubt the Wii gets a mod chip, but if it does, it will be pretty hard to solder all the points required (as the points are very small, most of them are VERY close together).

I really hope the Wii doesn’t have problems with piracy like the GC did. It would be the early death of a great console.

PIRACY SUCKS!!!

[WHurricane16]

The ony reason I have ever been into homebrew is to play emulated console games like sness and genesis games. Now I can do that on the Wii anyway, so I see little point (for me personally) to wish that homebrew appears on it also. If it does, and if it also made piracy possible, then that would be a very sad day indeed.

I see your point, but many of us would like to be able to take advantage of the Wii's unique hardware for our own ideas.

[soad825]

all i got to say is "Wow!" all fricken ready smthing is out.that is just sad.....