German Past Haunts Gamers' Future

[Christuserloeser]

They should spend less time worrying about video games, and more time fixing their dwindling economics that lead to poverty.. and there in.. violence.

Good point. I think the whole ban on video games and blaming games for the recent increase in violence is nothing but a tactical move to draw attention away from politicians actually beeing responsible for the fast growing poverty of vast parts of the population. The sell-out of state property during the past 17 years has nothing but the goal to enable German companies to rule the European market. (Remember when RWE bought London's water supplier?)

To get back on topic: That means I don't think it's really Germany's past that haunts gamer's future.

And another thing, ENOUGH WITH THE GERMAN BASHING! Maybe if there were a few games were the German's WEREN'T the bad guys, maybe they wouldn't have such a low opinion of games.

I have to live here, I can bash as much as I want =P

Also, there are many games where Germans aren't your enemies: Mario, Sonic, Tetris, Sega Rally, and I am sure there are some I forgot. ^^

Also why do you think Nazis = all Germans ? Nazis for me are Nazis. They do not represent each and every German. We got plenty of other folks here too, like libertarians and other funny people. ^^

Anyway, I really do enjoy killing Nazis in a video game. There's nothing wrong with that.

It's worth noting that WWII propaganda, on BOTH SIDES, was pretty heavy. Each side vilifying the other with alot of allegations, hyping up the negative, and ignoring their own atrocities. And yes, the Allies did plenty of civilian killing. Bad things happen in war. But this war was like 60 years ago. We haven't held a grudge against Japan that long, and they did much worse against the Koreans, Philipios, and Chinese.

Much what ? Worse ?

I mean, I am well aware that Japan was facist too. What they did against China (which was already a democracy at that time) can not be forgiven. Perhaps one should be more careful with Japanese politics and history too

The main difference is that Japan didn't have much of a choice. It wasn't a democracy and the kaiser of Japan decided to join the Axis.

As you might know German was a democracy when they elected Hitler and they very well knew what his goals were. And what I know is that people in Germany actually enjoyed what they did: wiping out 35 Million Russians, trying to exctinct all Jewish life and culture, fighting communism, democracy, homosexuality and so on, for them seemed to be the right thing to do. And that's just been 60 years ago. There are people still living here that were 20, 30 or even 40 years old at that time.

Maybe if a certain Religous/Politial group wasn't busy hyping German history for their own political ends, the world could finally move past this small speed-bump in history and things would improve for the better.

I don't think I actually understood what you wrote there. But if you meant what think you meant, you aren't really worth my time talking to you.

That is, unless we all WANT to see Germany move further into the same kinda Isolationism that started the first two world wars.

Please check your facts. Isolationism didn't start any of those wars. The German population and authorities had the freedom of choice and are fully responsible for their actions. It's not that people are that stupid over here.

Video games and movies are just the starting block in a very bad trend. Some positive German roll models in movies and games could go a long ways towards reversing this trend. You can't vilify somebody, insult their heritage, and expect them to remain open and friendly. Respect is a two-way street.

There always were and still are plenty of fantastic German role models (Marx, Luxemburg, Kant, just to name a few). It's just that no one cares.

Anyway, I agree with you that disrespecting someone for their heritage would be good choice. Still, you should choose carefully who actually deserves your respect and who not.

[Shadowblind]

Get it people. You CANNOT judge the people in a country by what its political leaders do. This includes the US, Germany, Britain, and all countries. The country as a whole is not bad, whether or not its political system is corrupt.

MORAL: Dont judge people by what the country they live in does.