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    my account mustve been taken over. but it doesnt say it when you go to more posts by scarph.

    o well either way, my thoughts on the subject.

    Slavery has always been, and will always be. The main difference between American slavery and every other slavery, was we of course did it to one race of people.

    The Romans for instance took slaves from Persia, Greece, and Africa. They enslaved Greeks because of how educated they were. The slaves were most likely treated very well, and maybe even thought of as equals. It was just their misfortune that they lost in battle.

    American slavery was a whole different ball game. We enslaved Africans because we truly believes they were a difference species than us. And why not, they didn't speak any sort of language we knew, they were much different looking, and they were definitely not as intelligent or advanced. I would've most likely been a supporter of slavery in it's earlier days, believing Africans to be not much more than trained monkeys. As we can see in the 16th and 17th centuries, more European countries began to abolish slavery, which in my opinion should've been the turning point in American's minds. We at that point knew that they were perfectly capable human beings. At that point, slavery was an awful and shameful thing.

    All things being relative though, we are still providing aid to impoverished Saharan countries, who cannot manage to feed themselves, or prevent widespread epidemic. It really makes you think, maybe Africans really are not capable of taking care of themselves. Without European intervention, Africa would be a complete wasteland. The only decent portion of Africa is on it's coasts; extremely colonized areas. Just makes you think eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarph View Post
    my account mustve been taken over. but it doesnt say it when you go to more posts by scarph.

    o well either way, my thoughts on the subject.

    Slavery has always been, and will always be. The main difference between American slavery and every other slavery, was we of course did it to one race of people.

    The Romans for instance took slaves from Persia, Greece, and Africa. They enslaved Greeks because of how educated they were. The slaves were most likely treated very well, and maybe even thought of as equals. It was just their misfortune that they lost in battle.

    American slavery was a whole different ball game. We enslaved Africans because we truly believes they were a difference species than us. And why not, they didn't speak any sort of language we knew, they were much different looking, and they were definitely not as intelligent or advanced. I would've most likely been a supporter of slavery in it's earlier days, believing Africans to be not much more than trained monkeys. As we can see in the 16th and 17th centuries, more European countries began to abolish slavery, which in my opinion should've been the turning point in American's minds. We at that point knew that they were perfectly capable human beings. At that point, slavery was an awful and shameful thing.

    All things being relative though, we are still providing aid to impoverished Saharan countries, who cannot manage to feed themselves, or prevent widespread epidemic. It really makes you think, maybe Africans really are not capable of taking care of themselves. Without European intervention, Africa would be a complete wasteland. The only decent portion of Africa is on it's coasts; extremely colonized areas. Just makes you think eh?
    No, Americans enslaved the natives too. Yep, before they enslaved Africans for th plantations. Well, technically the English enslaved the native americans, but they became the Americans.

    At the time, most white people lived by Ethnocentrism, the thought that one culture is supperior to another. In fact, what started this idea about the two cultures was human sacrifice. They became so appauled by the African and Native American tradition of human sacrifice that they wrongly viewed themselves as somehow "better" then the other culture.

    The only slavery ever to compare to the horrors of the 1800s slavery is the slavery that is taught about infidels in Islam. It was worse....killed who they wanted, when they wanted. Usually by burning, or disembowling.

    Im learning about this in History this chapter

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarph View Post
    whoa i didnt type africans enslaved africans, someone else mustve been on my account

    what should i do
    You can start by not moaning, you obviously wrote it and forgot you did.

    Quote Originally Posted by Junixx View Post
    Um.... I thought rep was disabled?
    It was, read the post date!

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    It was from March, this is old.
    Very old!

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    this is a old thread
    A thread that was at least 20-30 pages back (maybe more), so quite old. And from February too!

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    I'm pretty sure they decided they were better because these other cultures didn't have the latest technology of the European's (guns, steel, boats). And the reason they took them slavery was not because they thought they were better, (even if they did) it was because they wanted free labor.

    What history course are you taking if I might ask?

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    Eh, world history II. Those tech ideas might have contributed, but human sacrifice did much more then I thought it did prior to the lesson. The thought that they were better then them played the largest role. They took them because they wanted the free labor, but they never would have if they thought they were equals. Same with the Spanish explorers. They took advantage of the Natives because they believed they were higher in culture.

    Thats a fact.

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    think of it this way, we have arseholes like George bush doing all these stupid annoying things to cover up the bad things that happened in the past.

    "mr president, the number of American casualties in Iraq has increased"

    "Heeeee yaaaaaaw! dawg gone it, send more of em' lets kill them teroristtsststss"

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    Lol, I always stay out of politics, but think of it this way: Anything, ANYTHING that the pres does MUST be first accepted by 2/3s of Congress. 40,00 troops being sent was accepted by Congress too. Politics...

    No one is innocent anymore...sigh....whats wrong with the world...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowblind View Post
    Eh, world history II. Those tech ideas might have contributed, but human sacrifice did much more then I thought it did prior to the lesson. The thought that they were better then them played the largest role. They took them because they wanted the free labor, but they never would have if they thought they were equals. Same with the Spanish explorers. They took advantage of the Natives because they believed they were higher in culture.

    Thats a fact.
    I really don't think that's a fact at all. In fact as I explained in my earlier post, the Romans took Greek slaves after battles even thought they thought they were extremely intelligent. The thing is, colonists saw a bunch of horses in the new world. They didn't enslave the horses because they thought they were better, they took the horses because they needed to pull their wagons.

    (Horses is a metaphor for Indians, or Africans i guess.)

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    Comparing horses to any human is impossible. Animals and humans are absolutely different things. And...yeah we do. If horses were as smart as we were, then no there wouldn't be horses pulling stuff around unless they were being paid for it.

    English aren't Romans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarph View Post
    I really don't think that's a fact at all. In fact as I explained in my earlier post, the Romans took Greek slaves after battles even thought they thought they were extremely intelligent. The thing is, colonists saw a bunch of horses in the new world. They didn't enslave the horses because they thought they were better, they took the horses because they needed to pull their wagons.

    (Horses is a metaphor for Indians, or Africans i guess.)
    Actually, horses were brought to the new world, and didn't live here prior to the 1500s. As for Roman slavery, it was't just the Romans who took POWs as slaves.

    Final note: DON'T BUMP OLD THREADS.

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