The Proof for Christ's Claims

[gdf]

god never made anything, never mind bang a chick without penetration. sounds like a rapist to me...

[LilSwish722]

god never made anything, never mind bang a chick without penetration. sounds like a rapist to me...

Now was that really necessary. That was actually offensive. And God doesn't have to in order to make someone give birth to his son. What your talking about is a SCIENTIFIC view. God, by no means, needs to be scientific. That's the beauty of God. Whatever He wants to happen, he allows. Nothing happens without a reason.

Sorry I haven't been on this thread in a while. I was busy with school.

[ICE]

god never made anything, never mind bang a chick without penetration. sounds like a rapist to me...

man that was meant to hurt peoples feeling and make people mad. thats the kinda post the causes a loss of respect.

[Accordion]

man that was meant to hurt peoples feeling and make people mad. thats the kinda post the causes a loss of respect.

while the language was not tasteful, others shouldnt overlook that is clearly one persons opinion.

much like most of this thread.

[tactful mcbee]

while the language was not tasteful, others shouldnt overlook that is clearly one persons opinion.

much like most of this thread.

most of what we have said has been factual evidence and logic, not meaningless opinions. we have given an argument over the reasons of our faith in creation and the sustaining of life, in which their is NO proof to counter it. we have answered all questions, yet others have still neglected our questions for their beliefs.

by the way, saying the God you dedicated your life to is a simple rapist is beyond the point of opinion. it is malice verbal attacks, and if he was accusing someone of this, he would be charged with slander and possible jail time. so back off

[Cap'n 1time]

most of what we have said has been factual evidence and logic, not meaningless opinions. we have given an argument over the reasons of our faith in creation and the sustaining of life, in which their is NO proof to counter it. we have answered all questions, yet others have still neglected our questions for their beliefs.

I dont think logic is the best word, stubborn faith. perhaps (which is apparently admirable trait in religion) Nothing God did or supposedly did is logical by human standards and no one should pretend to give a logical answer based upon thousands of year of history that we know much less than we would like to about.

You only believe what you do because you were brought up that way, and surely you would be different if you were born under different circumstances. If you were brought up with different teachings you would be just as defensive about those teachings. - That is logical.

[ICE]

I dont think logic is the best word, stubborn faith. perhaps (which is apparently admirable trait in religion) Nothing God did or supposedly did is logical by human standards and no one should pretend to give a logical answer based upon thousands of year of history that we know much less than we would like to about.

You only believe what you do because you were brought up that way, and surely you would be different if you were born under different circumstances. If you were brought up with different teachings you would be just as defensive about those teachings. - That is logical.

i wasnt aware that you were present as myself and tactful were growing up cap'n. oh wait you werent. if you were you would know that neither of us were christians until fairly recently. im not even sure what to say about your first paragraph as i can make sense of it. your point is that g-d isnt logical but you give no reasons for it.

it is impossible to debate opinion so give facts.

[bullhead]

You give "facts"! all I see are quotes from a book from you guys!

[Cap'n 1time]

i wasnt aware that you were present as myself and tactful were growing up cap'n. oh wait you werent. if you were you would know that neither of us were christians until fairly recently. im not even sure what to say about your first paragraph as i can make sense of it. your point is that g-d isnt logical but you give no reasons for it.

it is impossible to debate opinion so give facts.

Forgive me, I assumed you were just like every Christian (like myself when I was younger) that went to church from a very early age and had these ideas pumped into me. Apparently you became a Christian without any outside influence (they exist, but they are extremely rare from my experience).

I suppose each of us have a reality. our individual realities are how we perceive things, that is to say, not exactly the way THEY ARE but the way we see things and the way we think they are. Who knows, you might be correct. Maybe the god you worship does exist, but I havnt seen any logical evidence that he exists either other than an ancient book that are reaccounts of reaccounts that happened over thousands of years. My point is, you cant really argue based upon logic either.

[ICE]

You give "facts"! all I see are quotes from a book from you guys!

has anyone proven the book wrong? you guys have tried but the only things youve come up with are quotes from catholics and changing red to reed which is completely irrelevant.

my "perception" is that no one has proven us wrong or even given one reason we're wrong other than "god is fake" or "thats illogical". i think the issue here is your perception. you dont HONESTLY want a god and therefore you shut out the possibility of him.

Maybe the god you worship does exist, but I havnt seen any logical evidence that he exists either other than an ancient book that are reaccounts of reaccounts that happened over thousands of years. My point is, you cant really argue based upon logic either.

your saying that old books are wrong? the bible is easily one of the most historically accurate books we have. the only serious debates on the bible are on interpretation of actual events ie. was it god or coincidence. saying that all we have is accounts from a historically accurate book isnt saying much..