The Proof for Christ's Claims

[ICE]

that guy that spoke of first grade; Your knowledge came from man. If someone told you they could break their bones and heal their wounds instantly, would you not want to see them cut themselves?
Why dont you question your beliefs? They come from man. Just like the man who heals himself. Hey look at that, a parable by bullhead, the parable of the blind sheep!

you still dont get it. our "knowledge" was god inspired. written by god through man.

why dont we question our own beliefs? i didnt know that we hadnt... oh well guess bull know me better than i do...

bull dont just guess that we havent questioned and researched the beliefs we were taught. you have no right to try and point the finger at us for something we didnt do, and even if we had there's no way for you to know for sure.

[tactful mcbee]

hey bull how many times have you actually read the bible?

i have studied most mainstream religions and denominations. even the theory on raelians(aliens) yet i say the bible is the only one that makes since

[ExcruciationX]

Debating it isn't going to get us anywhere.

In the end, we'll still be stubborn headed, we'll still believe the same religion, and we'll still believe we're right. It's a waste.

[ICE]

Debating it isn't going to get us anywhere.

In the end, we'll still be stubborn headed, we'll still believe the same religion, and we'll still believe we're right. It's a waste.

i KNOW im right and thats why i will continue to scream it from the mountain tops as long as i have lungs capable of doing so.

[mexicansnake]

i KNOW im right and thats why i will continue to scream it from the mountain tops as long as i have lungs capable of doing so.

Thats the spirit!:thumbup: .

[kcajblue]

i KNOW im right and thats why i will continue to scream it from the mountain tops as long as i have lungs capable of doing so.

you should seriously become a priest or something of the matter.

[ExcruciationX]

How do you know you're right?

Do you have proof of what you believe? Do you know why you believe? Do you think you see God's actions, when in reality you're just seeing coincidental events?

I'm not sure if I'm right, and I would love to be proved wrong. I would love to know some guy sits in the clouds, and after you die, you get to meet him and all the departed for all eternity. Who wouldn't? But, it just seems like a pipe dream to me.

[SSaxdude]

hey bull how many times have you actually read the bible?

i have studied most mainstream religions and denominations. even the theory on raelians(aliens) yet i say the bible is the only one that makes since

Really? I've heard the only surefire way to become an atheist is to read the bible (as said by Penn Jillette.)

Ok enough of off track ranting. I believe that religion only makes sense because it's point is to provide a better understanding of the universe. Knowing that a god created the world frees you from critically thinking about how we got here. Some people believe evolution is impossible or near impossible, and is why they buy into creation/intelligent design.

[ICE]

Really? I've heard the only surefire way to become an atheist is to read the bible (as said by Penn Jillette.)

Ok enough of off track ranting. I believe that religion only makes sense because it's point is to provide a better understanding of the universe. Knowing that a god created the world frees you from critically thinking about how we got here. Some people believe evolution is impossible or near impossible, and is why they buy into creation/intelligent design.

so essentially your saying the religion is for people who dont want to think? honestly man your perception of christians is so incredibly distorted that i shouldnt even dignify that with a reply...

evolution is too hard so we made god? my lord.... seriously are you even trying any more? no one here ever said evolution couldnt be true.. STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS.

Ex, how do i know im right? well this thread is kinda a big part of that. 7 pages of people trying to disprove it and not one person has given one single good counter besides the bible is for people who dont want to think.. honestly man...

i know im right because its obvious. the alternatives are simply stupid. everything is here by chance(i hear not very good ones too)? just because? no reason eh? and im the stupid one? all the matter in the universe compiled into a tiny ball which started to spin and then it exploded? no reason for that either? hmm and yet jesus is harder to believe?

atheism is simply mans attempt to not need god. no god means no responsibility, no recoil for the stuff you do. nothing matters at all so do as you please.

i know im right because honestly i havent heard one reason in all my life that holds ANY water that says im not.

EDIT: ssax, when you make remarks like that all your doing is showing a lack of ability to converse in an adult manner. Ex disagrees with me but he has not said anything blatantly rude or tried to get under my skin. he can converse like an adult. can you? (fyi just joking ssax)

[ExcruciationX]

Well, our ideas aren't stupid. What gets me, is that there is proof of what we believe in. We can explain what we think mathematically, scientifically, and physically and it's there.

But, religion doesn't seem able to be explained down here at our level. It seems like some of the higher up math and physics people are Atheist. They know their stuff. Don't you ask why?

That's my reason for being Atheist, like it or not.

IceMan: Yeah, I'm not here to get into fights, or to piss people off.

It's funny. I'm younger then most of you guys, yet I'm the most mature, free-thinking, and thoughtful person here.