Thanks Sony You do get some things right

[FrostyTheSnowman]

Fine, I guess I concede. You go enjoy your 'legal' SNES/NES/old school emulators on the Dreamcast, and i'm gonna go hit up some 4-player GoldenEye with my friends on my illegal XBOX.

[bm4n]

Legality really does have nothing to do with it. Just because emulation is not legal on the XBOX does not mean that it is an inferior homebrew system.

The Dreamcast is inferior in hardware, AND in what is available for homebrew on that platform versus the XBOX. Legality has nothing to do with which system is the superior homebrew system.

Example 1: SNES emulation on the Dreamcast is still not anywhere near playable on a good amount of games, whereas those same games run PERFECT on the XBOX, WITH filtering and HDTV resolutions.

Example 2: N64 emulation on the Dreamcast is non-existant. N64 emulation on the XBOX is full speed with most games, and supports 4 players, including Mempaks and Rumblepaks.

Example 3: PSX emulation on the Dreamcast was limited to less than 5 games, and it was only available commercially. PSX emulation on the XBOX is full-speed, and can play most PSX games easily, WITH filtering.

Example 4: Linux is limited to command-line on the Dreamcast, and serves little purpose. Linux on the XBOX comes in almost 10 different flavors, and all are full featured operating systems.

Dreamcast can't touch the XBOX on homebrew. End of story.

Well said. We Xbox modders on these boards seem to be few and far between...I have been modding boxes for like 2 or 3 or w/e years now and I love all my Xboxes used for different purposes...What a brilliantly diverse machine.

[MZeroEW2]

why in the hell did this thread get on the subject of whats better Xbox or dreamcast. it doesn't matter

PLEASE GET OVER YOURSELVES

[Baboon]

Just to jump on the band wagon (although slightly off topic for this thread)... as much as I love my DC and PSP...emulation on the xbox totaly kicks ass!

One thing to be thankful for is Region Free gaming, in a world like today where boundarys mean nothing via the Net, its great to see a company go the region free route.

Region free gaming is cool but then on the other hand $ony try to restrict importers from getting the latest games (also at the best prices) by closing down sites like Lik Sang! ...doh!

[DarthPaul]

And that's stopped who in the past? Who says you won't need the PS3 SDK to run homebrew in the future?

I'm sorry Wraggster, I usually like your point of views but this post is all wrong. Blu-ray will die soon. Its useless. And I doubt the homebrew scene will ever really develop on the PS3. The thing is since you can install linux on it without modding most people will do that. Once you do that you have barely any access to system resources and stuff in regards to graphics, etc. so developers probably won't bother. I could be discustingly wrong but in the mean time I'll stick with my original Xbox and my PSP. Also, just because $ony did some things right in the PS3 (no region coding) doesn't make them any less of douchebags for still locking the PSP stuff.

The End.

You'll stick with your X-Box and PSP? So that means that you buy systems only thinking in homebrew? If you want to see the true power or true potential of any console..the homebrew is not the right way. I'm sorry to say that you're a F-R-O-O-B.
And I agree with this. The PSP and the PS3 are the most powerful systems on the market. The PSP is the most powerful hand-held and the PS3 the most powerful home console. And what's the problem? Developers aren't concentrating on the system they're working with,they're not reaching the limits. The PS3 can do a lot more than what we're seeing to date. Just let's give some time and let the developers and games role. We'll see what system is the real deal. And think about this..If the X-box 360 has more sales than the PS3 is because it came to the market months before than the PS3. And why is the Wii selling more than both? Because it's the cheaper one,and the majority of the gamers are kids. So the parents are buying Wii's to their kiddies. And the same goes to the DS,parents buying DS's to their pussies..I mean their kiddies.

[Triv1um]

I'm sorry to say that you're a F-R-O-O-B.
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Haha, awesome.

And i read somewere that blu-ray will die.
No it wont, it is revolutionary, it is obsolite to everything else at the moment. When something better comes out (it will be a while) then it will slowly fade out. Much like the old DVD and VCR wars.

[The Hombrew Hunter]

Darth Paul, your post is 10% true, 90% $ony Fanboy.

The DS isn't being enjoyed by only kids. No one who walks in a Wal Mart to buy something (Where most of these consoles ARE sold,) will know JACK $#@! about PSP homebrew. What do they do? They enjoy the commercial DS, which is NOT failing commercially, like the PSP.

Also, the Wii isn't just selling to parents buying things for their kids. It's selling because of it's innovative controls, fun games, and partially because of the Nintendo Fanbase.

Triv1um, there is one thing in your post that is correct.

Blu Ray is obsolete

That's essentially what you just said in your post.

[White_Hawk_UK]

Quite beside the topic actually being discussed, I thought I'd mention that I thought I'd got away without customs charges when I ordered a PSP from Hong Kong a while back. About a month later, I was sent an invoice for the amount that DHL had to pay at customs.

As they didn't bother informing me upon delivery, and the amount they are attempting to charge me is based on a value I never paid (I got an excellent deal on the exchange), the invoice is still sitting on my desk at home. I would have been happy to pay import duty, but as they're attempting to charge me an administration fee on top of tax based on an overblown exchange rate, and their communication was unduly urgent ("IMMEDIATE PAYMENT REQUIRED"), I'll be happy to let them swing in the wind indefinitely.

[JKKDARK]

Legality really does have nothing to do with it. Just because emulation is not legal on the XBOX does not mean that it is an inferior homebrew system.

The Dreamcast is inferior in hardware, AND in what is available for homebrew on that platform versus the XBOX. Legality has nothing to do with which system is the superior homebrew system.

Example 1: SNES emulation on the Dreamcast is still not anywhere near playable on a good amount of games, whereas those same games run PERFECT on the XBOX, WITH filtering and HDTV resolutions.

Example 2: N64 emulation on the Dreamcast is non-existant. N64 emulation on the XBOX is full speed with most games, and supports 4 players, including Mempaks and Rumblepaks.

Example 3: PSX emulation on the Dreamcast was limited to less than 5 games, and it was only available commercially. PSX emulation on the XBOX is full-speed, and can play most PSX games easily, WITH filtering.

Example 4: Linux is limited to command-line on the Dreamcast, and serves little purpose. Linux on the XBOX comes in almost 10 different flavors, and all are full featured operating systems.

Dreamcast can't touch the XBOX on homebrew. End of story.

Then can you explain me perfectly why there's a Saturn emulator on Dreamcast running commercial games and there isn't one for Xbox?

[White_Hawk_UK]

...because nobody has bothered to write one, perhaps? :P

I'm confused by the statement that emulation is illegal on the XBox - I had no idea that legislation was so product-specific. How on Earth do they enforce that?