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    How quickly people forget. The reason a lot of people have a lot of dislike for Sony is not just because of their constant quest to destroy the homebrew scene (although that doesn't endear them to me much either, even if one does grudgingly have to admit that they might - might, mark you - face a legal problem if they do not). Sony have a history of pissing off their customers:

    Remember Lik-Sang? That nice import company that Sony sued into the ground?

    Remember the rootkit fiasco?

    Well, I do, and lots of others here do too. While I love my PSP and think it's possibly the single coolest gadget I have ever owned, do NOT deny me my right to dislike and distrust the corporation that spawned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpooForBrains View Post
    How quickly people forget. The reason a lot of people have a lot of dislike for Sony is not just because of their constant quest to destroy the homebrew scene (although that doesn't endear them to me much either, even if one does grudgingly have to admit that they might - might, mark you - face a legal problem if they do not). Sony have a history of pissing off their customers:

    Remember Lik-Sang? That nice import company that Sony sued into the ground?

    Remember the rootkit fiasco?

    Well, I do, and lots of others here do too. While I love my PSP and think it's possibly the single coolest gadget I have ever owned, do NOT deny me my right to dislike and distrust the corporation that spawned it.
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    I don't completely agree with this. I give Sony tons of credit for the making of the console. I bought a PSP when they first came out, mine is one from the very first shipment. I also would like to say Sony has done a good job innovating the system with tons of updates like the web browser and the PS1 Emulation. One comment I would like to make, though, is that while the PS1 Emulation was great, they kind of encouraged piracy when they released it. The reason they encouraged it was because they made the games only downloadable on the PS3 for one and secondly, they have hardly any good games on the PS3 for download... Thus, any smart human being is going to make ISO copies of their PS1 games they own, for example FF7 and download a custom firmware so that they can do what they wanted to, play PS1 games. I for one, would pay to download a PS1 game if only I didn't have to first reach deep in to my wallet to buy a PS3, only to be further upset by the lack of support in game downloads.

    And as for people doing illegal things on the PSP, Sony needs to get over that. There is always going to be somebody doing something illegal. It is just the day and age that we live in.

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    they make enough money and homebrew is such a great thing. especially the fw mods they really rock. sony should save themselves the trouble and just leave the hombrew scene be. Also getting someone to make all these new fw updates can't be free !

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    Personally I couldn't care less about their anti-piracy policies and such, since that is their right. What really annoys me with Sony though is how they love to piss on people that love their products. Like for the launch of the PS3. They knew Europeans love the PlayStation and would buy the PS3 since they are big fans of Sony. And for that reason only they delay the European launch for several months since they would rather flirt with the americans. And then to top it off there was the pricecuts in japan and the backward compatability for PS2 games on the European PS3s. That just really annoys me. To not value the people that love them. If I didn't love the PlayStation systems id hope they went out of business >_>

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    Sony takes a somewhat tyrannical hand with its customers, and a destroy-or-be-destroyed view of its competitors (I believe the term "Bushido Business Model" has been coined to describe it). It's not just the PSP and their attempts to squelch homebrew, other areas of Sony business are treated in this fashion. As SpooForBrains points out, rootkits were a tremendous giveaway that Sony thinks it should just be dominant over its customers, and that their customers should smile and bow and accept. However, I've run into the Sony business model (contempt for customers) in other places (anybody remember SOE and Star Wars Galaxies?).

    Sony's hardware division has always created impressive products, and it is for that reason alone that I've stayed with them. Sony's software divisions are the "bad guys", however, and no amount of argument will ever convince me differently. Sony's actions speak louder than anybody else's words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonSpawn View Post
    Personally I couldn't care less about their anti-piracy policies and such, since that is their right. What really annoys me with Sony though is how they love to piss on people that love their products. Like for the launch of the PS3. They knew Europeans love the PlayStation and would buy the PS3 since they are big fans of Sony. And for that reason only they delay the European launch for several months since they would rather flirt with the americans. And then to top it off there was the pricecuts in japan and the backward compatability for PS2 games on the European PS3s. That just really annoys me. To not value the people that love them. If I didn't love the PlayStation systems id hope they went out of business >_>
    That's true. I lived that thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynidez View Post
    I have wrote this story exclusivly for Dcemu because i feel the site needs news articles from inside the site too, to go along with external news.

    Sony, what do we know about them?

    They created the Sony PSP for one thing, but many users hate them.

    Users say that Sony are denying them the right to use the hardware that they payed for to its full potential. But are they? No.

    Sony has made it there stance from day one that they were going to do there up-most to prevent piracy on the PSP console. It was the first Sony console to have any firmware updates, Sony clearly were not happy with all the piracy that the PS2 endured.

    So every time a firmware is cracked to allow the illegal playing of ISO's and PS1 games from your memory stick, they release another update that fixes the leak.

    Lets look at it from Sony's point of view, they make there money on software sales not hardware sales.
    So every time a firmware is cracked to allow the illegal use of software on it they are loosing money.

    And because its a fine line between homebrew and Iso loading they have to block them both out of there official firmware, so they don't loose out on software sales.

    Another side to it is Emulators, now the majority of emulators are legal, but another interesting legality issue has arisen.

    Say Sony decided to support homebrew in official firmware, you could play all your Snes, Genesis, N64 etc games on your PSP for free.
    Nintendo of course now own the rights to sell some of those games on there virtual console for the Wii, so if Sony allowed users to play those games on there PSP's on official firmware, Nintendo could potentially sue them for it.

    So to reflect, you can see why Sony cant allow Homebrew in Official Firmwares. We should stop focusing on that and give Sony there due's for creating such a revolutionary Hand-held console for us all to enjoy.

    Don't forget, without Sony there wouldn't be a PSP so just remember that next time your ready to slate them

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    Wait wait.

    Sony IS the enemy.

    Why?

    Let's see point by point:

    1) Sony is not denying us the right to use the fully of something we paid 200$
    YES. I will explain why later.

    2) Sony was not happy with the piracy on the PS2
    I think not. Sadly, if a console has no piracy capabilities it sells at least the half it would sell. Also, they are happy with piracy. Otherwise, after the boom of Piracy on PSX, they could have done something better on PS2, regarding protections. Also, the PS2 got 14 hardware revision, every more piracy-friendly than the previous.

    3) Sony makes money from software, so they are unhappy with piracy
    Absolutely not. Firstly they are producers of a console, and in a second moment, they are producers of software. If a console doesn't sell, there's no need to make software, so it's better to have a wellsold-and-pirated console than a notpirated-and-notbought console.

    4) Sony doesn't make homebrew available because emulators could make it open to legal procedures from other software houses
    Absolutely not correct. As an example, we can get GP2x. An homebrew console. Not every single sue from any console maker. Why? Because it's not the console producer responsible of the use you do with it. Instead, if they would place integrated NES/SNES/N64 emulators in the PSP firmware, they would be GREATLY sueable. But, if every software house could sue anything that runs emulator, we should see 400 sues every day to Microsoft, because they have done Windows, and emulators run on it.

    5) Sony has made not possible the use of personal PSX iS0s with the PSP emulator to avoid legal problems or loss of profits
    Wait a moment... I have bought many original PSX games. Buying them, I have to right to put them on anything I wish, emulators on PC, emulators on GP2x and more, because I'm the owner of that game. And now, WHY the Sony had to make us pay AGAIN for games we already have? Simply, to spill us more money! PSX games are not profitable anymore, so making them pay it's simply another idea of making money on us. As I said before on emulators, no legal problem should come to Sony on putting a free PSX emulator on their firmware.

    So, it's true. Sony IS THE ENEMY.

    And I can confirm that, having bought first a PS2 old type that never functioned well, and secondly bought a PS2 slim that gave me EVERY genre of problems, and I had to send it to the assistance, and now it doesn't displays anymore movies in game, and I have to send it again to Sony assistance. Also, I have bought 3 PSP and two of them had dead pixels.

    Surely, I WILL not buy PS3, after all these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sappo View Post
    Surely, I WILL not buy PS3, after all these things.
    I agree with your post, but I believe this part was kinda foolish.
    As for the PS2 part, I have only bought ONE PS2 slim, it's 100% alive and kickin' ass, not a single service. As for my PSP, it was used, so it had 2 stuck pixels.
    You need to take better care of your things. Especially your consoles.
    I know many people whose consoles were completely destroyed multiple times, but I also know people whose consoles are in the best condition ever.
    And those 2 kinds of people COINCIDENTALLY had the difference between them that the first ones didn't take good care of their consoles, and the second ones took really good care of theirs...
    I'm not saying that to offend you, but it's just a fact I've seen.
    And that is "It's all about the user".

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    Quote Originally Posted by yoshinatsu View Post
    I agree with your post, but I believe this part was kinda foolish.
    I only said that because I've already gave a lot of money to Sony, and I'm a little afraid of paying something 600$ that might malfunction and/or not can be used at full functionality.

    Just to name something, they aren't going to make homebrew developers use all of the graphical power (news sometime ago here on DCEMU).

    So, this means no N64 and many others emulators that require a lot of graphical power on PS3.

    Also, here in Europe, I must buy PS3 without Emotion Engine at the same price of a Japanese PS3 that HAVES Emotion Engine.

    Why?

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