Sony Are Not The Enemy

[Buddy4point0]

sony made the psp but we made it better. they wont agree to that and let us keep makeing it better therefour they are preventing progress, making them the enemy.

[yoshinatsu]

I only said that because I've already gave a lot of money to Sony, and I'm a little afraid of paying something 600$ that might malfunction and/or not can be used at full functionality.

Just to name something, they aren't going to make homebrew developers use all of the graphical power (news sometime ago here on DCEMU).

So, this means no N64 and many others emulators that require a lot of graphical power on PS3.

Also, here in Europe, I must buy PS3 without Emotion Engine at the same price of a Japanese PS3 that HAVES Emotion Engine.

Why?

No, you have to buy it for 230 euros (250 pounds) more.

[Abgoj]

I have wrote this story exclusivly for Dcemu because i feel the site needs news articles from inside the site too, to go along with external news.

Sony, what do we know about them?

They created the Sony PSP for one thing, but many users hate them.

Users say that Sony are denying them the right to use the hardware that they payed for to its full potential. But are they? No.

The reason for a lot of people disliking sony now is because of the price of their machines, not just because of the fact that they're trying to stop piracy.

The price of a PS3 is ridiculous, so many people are now placing their trust in Nintendo to dish up some gaming greatness for a much more reasonable price.

I highly doubt that the Nintendo DS would sell as much as it currently is if it had the price tag of a psp console now would it.

Now I know you're getting more processing power in the psp and especially the PS3, but lets face it, who really needs a blueray player in their machine? It wasn't requested and now we have to fork out a ridiculous amount of money for something that all we really want to do is play games on.

I agree that sony is a good company, and they make quality gaming consoles, but I think they would get a lot more people wanting to buy their quality consoles, if they just lowered the friggin' prices on them.

[yoshinatsu]

Now I know you're getting more processing power in the psp and especially the PS3, but lets face it, who really needs a blueray player in their machine? It wasn't requested and now we have to fork out a ridiculous amount of money for something that all we really want to do is play games on.

Well, Blu-Ray movies mean nothing to me.
But for a seventh-generation console and in terms of capacity (and not playback capabilities), I think 9GBs are not enough.

[XxunknowxX]

$ony aren't completley in the wrong for blocking firmware downgrade but I gotta blame some one for not being able to downgrade my PSP and enjoy the magical world of homebrew.

first of all nice article complely agreed on this 100%

2nd coke if you want to hate on someone for u not to b able to use homebrew or a CFW you have to hate on ur self because u were the dumb ass to upgrade

[Joe88]

How quickly people forget. The reason a lot of people have a lot of dislike for Sony is not just because of their constant quest to destroy the homebrew scene (although that doesn't endear them to me much either, even if one does grudgingly have to admit that they might - might, mark you - face a legal problem if they do not). Sony have a history of pissing off their customers:

Remember Lik-Sang? That nice import company that Sony sued into the ground?

Remember the rootkit fiasco?

Well, I do, and lots of others here do too. While I love my PSP and think it's possibly the single coolest gadget I have ever owned, do NOT deny me my right to dislike and distrust the corporation that spawned it.

bringing lik-sang isnto this isnt gonna help
sony sent a seist and desist to them
lik-sang just ignored it and sony sued them and lik-sang being the small company that it is went bankrupt from it

theres still play asia which has plenty of neat things if you wanna import
people were acting like it was the end of the world because lik-sang got killed off, people just forgot about it and on, just a thing of the past now ...

[Anger]

i like your article however im afraid im going to have to blow some of your statements out of the water.
if these points have been said then ignore em.
ok where to begin:

Users say that Sony are denying them the right to use the hardware that they payed for to its full potential. But are they? No.

sorry but they are - i agree they are correct for trying to stop piracy but there also trying to stop homebrew. add that to the fact that you cant customise your xmb without homebrew and that proves that they are restricting what you can and cant do with your own hardware.
and that brings me nicely to the next point - they make money from software but sony also likes making the cake and eating it, by charging more for there hardware than anyone else - case in point, the psp, memory sticks etc.

And because its a fine line between homebrew and Iso loading they have to block them both out of there official firmware, so they don't loose out on software sales.

microsofts xna proves you can have homebrew when done correctly. its not the best example so lets consider another - the yaroze, yes thats right, the developer version of the psx. they are choosing not to even try and support homebrew so they can encourage developers to develop for the psp but in doing so they are also restricting what we can do ourselves. (see point 1)

Say Sony decided to support homebrew in official firmware, you could play all your Snes, Genesis, N64 etc games on your PSP for free.
Nintendo of course now own the rights to sell some of those games on there virtual console for the Wii, so if Sony allowed users to play those games on there PSP's on official firmware, Nintendo could potentially sue them for it.

no arguement here about this however homebrew isnt just emulators, its also about what great programmers can do with great hardware.
and to my final point:

Lets look at it from Sony's point of view, they make there money on software sales not hardware sales.
So every time a firmware is cracked to allow the illegal use of software on it they are loosing money.

as i have stated sony is making the cake and eating it so i respond to your statement with just one word - ps3.
other than that your aticle isnt bad for someone who still likes sony. i gave up on supporting sony a long time ago - right about when the price started taking the piss, and the hardware we were getting was also cut down.

o and yeah - just read the post before me.

Remember Lik-Sang? That nice import company that Sony sued into the ground?

Remember the rootkit fiasco?

sony, no matter how you like or dislike them have acted very questionably recently. however there arrogance that they can do what they want will also be there downfall. if you had been subjected to any of this or were affected by any of these things sony have done you would be singing a different tune previous poster.

[Cokemusic]

Wait wait.

Sony IS the enemy.

Why?

Let's see point by point:

1) Sony is not denying us the right to use the fully of something we paid 200$
YES. I will explain why later.

2) Sony was not happy with the piracy on the PS2
I think not. Sadly, if a console has no piracy capabilities it sells at least the half it would sell. Also, they are happy with piracy. Otherwise, after the boom of Piracy on PSX, they could have done something better on PS2, regarding protections. Also, the PS2 got 14 hardware revision, every more piracy-friendly than the previous.

3) Sony makes money from software, so they are unhappy with piracy
Absolutely not. Firstly they are producers of a console, and in a second moment, they are producers of software. If a console doesn't sell, there's no need to make software, so it's better to have a wellsold-and-pirated console than a notpirated-and-notbought console.

4) Sony doesn't make homebrew available because emulators could make it open to legal procedures from other software houses
Absolutely not correct. As an example, we can get GP2x. An homebrew console. Not every single sue from any console maker. Why? Because it's not the console producer responsible of the use you do with it. Instead, if they would place integrated NES/SNES/N64 emulators in the PSP firmware, they would be GREATLY sueable. But, if every software house could sue anything that runs emulator, we should see 400 sues every day to Microsoft, because they have done Windows, and emulators run on it.

5) Sony has made not possible the use of personal PSX iS0s with the PSP emulator to avoid legal problems or loss of profits
Wait a moment... I have bought many original PSX games. Buying them, I have to right to put them on anything I wish, emulators on PC, emulators on GP2x and more, because I'm the owner of that game. And now, WHY the Sony had to make us pay AGAIN for games we already have? Simply, to spill us more money! PSX games are not profitable anymore, so making them pay it's simply another idea of making money on us. As I said before on emulators, no legal problem should come to Sony on putting a free PSX emulator on their firmware.

So, it's true. Sony IS THE ENEMY.

And I can confirm that, having bought first a PS2 old type that never functioned well, and secondly bought a PS2 slim that gave me EVERY genre of problems, and I had to send it to the assistance, and now it doesn't displays anymore movies in game, and I have to send it again to Sony assistance. Also, I have bought 3 PSP and two of them had dead pixels.

Surely, I WILL not buy PS3, after all these things.

OMG I was begining to sympathise with $ony.

Thanx for keeping me strong

[irishwhip]

the only reason for my distaste with sony is the whole lik-sang business. corporate bullies.

[Basil Zero]

Are you an idiot? Do you think most of the people here use custom homebrew firmwares for illegal stuff? You are totally wrong. I use a Game Boy Advance emulator dumping the bios from my own GBA, same for the games.

umm, i can promise u, the majority of the scene, homebrewers are putting up emulators and emulating games

even if u back up your own games, its still seen as piracy, dont ask me why, ask the companies.