Anyone else worried about Revolution's Power?

[Darksaviour69]

Only 1.7 million have sold in Asia. ( That compares with more than 13 million in the US and another five million in Europe) ... also in the other hand the dreamcast the last time i heard (5 years ago) had sold 2.5-3 million units (i think its more the 4-5 million mark in the end as 10million dreamcast where made and sold in the worldwide).

so yeah the xbox was a huge failure in japan. world wide there where about 20million xboxs sold, about the same as the gamecube, (but the gamecube is a little less i think). just to point out MS lost money for every xbox they sold while nintendo made money for every GC sold... so the xbox success (and ninty failure) are not a big as you think

[Christuserloeser]

GameCube and XboX are very close to each other when it comes to gfx. Their on par. The Revolution will be better than the GameCube so what's exactly the problem?

I don't think Nintendo will have the weakest system - in fact even if they do have the weakest system, after all their new machine technically will still be absolutly comparable to what MS and Sony will come up with.

See Dreamcast and PS2 - they're much much weaker than XBoX or GameCube though both of them still seem to be able to produce similar graphics than XboX or GC - especially the last generation of PS2 games looks pretty much like better XBoX or GameCube games.

PS: DC has sold about 5 million times in about 1, let's say 2 years (JP) - just like Saturn in four to five years. The other 5 million DC's were sold the year after Sega stopped production.

[ptr.exe]

I'm not going to explain fully, but basically companies are lazy, the GC and Xbox could be pushed so much further but they don't as then you'd have a massive divide in the quality of multi-format games on Ps2, GC and Xbox, Sony's major influence into many of todays publishers stops this from happening. However the divide is clear on console-exclusive titles.

There is a huge differance in quality between DC/PS2 and GC/Xbox, look at GT4 or GTA:SA on Ps2 by Gc/Xbox standards they look crap, GT4's backgrounds are ugly and poorly done, and GTA is just plain ugly. Whereas Metroid Prime, Halo, Resi4 all prove what a little more power can do graphically.

Anyway, ive gone off topic. The Revolution will probably be very similar to Xbox 360 power-wise, as the Xbox is getting released almost a year earlier Revolution will be of similar power by then, as Nintendo have said they are not putting much emphasis on graphical power. Ps3 will be most likely the most powerful as simple-minded Sony will focus on producing the most powerful machine with the lowest production costs and therefore crap build quality.

PS: don't see your point about DC sales.

[Darksaviour69]

its not fair to say that they are lazy, the higher the detail, the more work that has to done which leads to higher development costs. at the rate its going the next gen development cost r going to be HUGE... is this bad because there will be less game, and less original games...... what everyone has forgot XNA, ms's middleware tools that seem to make the process easier... that could be a big factor in the next gen war

[Cap'n 1time]

Ps3 will be most likely the most powerful as simple-minded Sony will focus on producing the most powerful machine with the lowest production costs and therefore crap build quality.

not really. The xbox should have a similare price, but i think it will be more expensive to produce. 3 cores capable of 1 teraflop vs. a cell processor capable of 2 teraflops.

What really sets them apart is the type of memory they both use though. Thats where I think Sony will pull ahead. Still I believe that the xbox will be more costly to produce.

Also, as you said, Sony has more support on the software side of things so i dont think you will see much of a lack of Software taking advantage of the hardware.

Both systems are very powerfull and Not many games on the current market could take FULL advantage of them. But as for the revolution - nintendo has never really done anything graphically amazing. It is all about gameplay.

[ptr.exe]

I know they'll have a similar price, i meant sony will try to increase their profit margin/decrease loss as much as possible, by cutting corners in production - sony products used to be a sign of quality they are now the worst built electronics on the market.

to be honest i don't mind that the Revolution could be underpowered personnally, but i think it may not do so well because of it, which concerns me considering the condition Nintendo is in in Europe/USA.

[WHurricane16]

I don't know, Nintendo is still being Nintendo when it comes to hardware specs. This will be there doom. No one cares about the 'Cube, and they are doing there best effort to make sure no one cares about the Revolution.

Odd company, reminds me of another one, Sega.

With a game like Resident Evil 4 in your stable, and an awesome new Zelda coming and no one is still talking about your system then you have issues. They can't even win in the current market, I thought there fan, media, and industry alienating tactics will go away.

Bye bye, Nintendo. Sorry for your stubborness.

*cough*It all won't matter when developers start cranking out the next generation of innovative software tricks with the PS3's cell processor *cough*

[Cap'n 1time]

... I think nintendo should start listening to their fans. They can still turn things around, but not with the current way they are managing things. Even their handheld is expected to loose its steam.

Speaking of their handheld - that gameboy micro. its a sexy machine but unless its like $40 i wont be buying it.

[MetaFox]

Can I ask what Nintendo's doing wrong? As it doesn't seem to be doing anything wrong in my eyes. I always see people saying Nintendo is doing everything wrong, but don't ever see anyone backing that comment up.

All I've ever read was complaints about the "kiddie" Zelda and lack of online play, both of which Nintendo are rectifying after listening to complaints from their fans.

So, what's Nintendo doing wrong? They're making more money than Sony and Microsoft (as far as the games industry is concerned), and they're making games that I enjoy. They don't seem to be doing bad at all.

[Christuserloeser]

They're doing nothing wrong. All that's not as good compared to Sony and Microsoft is the amount of time and money spend on advertising. Too bad that this is an important topic cause people are of course curious to learn about the quality of a new product. And that quality always was and will be Nintendo's speciality compared to all the more or less average Sony and Microsoft games.
If anyone complaining about Zelda - Wind Waker would ever have played it, they would pretty quickly change their mind pretty...