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    To F9zDark I have both PS3 and Xbox360, but I haven't a HD-DVD add on. I'm in no hurry to jump on the HD optical disc bandwagon at the moment, if at all. I got the xbox because I couldn't wait till the PS3 finally got released here in Europe. Maybe I had too much spare cash? I don't know. I was expecting a lot more exclusive games for the PS3 than maybe the xbox would get but they look like they are going to be fairly even at the moment, (if I negate the Jap games which I can't really get into at all). I start to ramble....

    re- irongiant
    I won't bother with quotes as I'm sure you know what you wrote.

    Review said BOTH compressed and non-compressed audio was great in effect. So do you need both? Wasted space?
    "Whole 50Gb used for the movie leaving plenty of space to breath". How can that be? All space used but plenty of room? Used because it could be or had to be due to poorer compression techniques?
    Are you sure that they are paid to review? Anyway I've heard many reviewers say a film is rubbish only to watch it myself and it hasn't been half as bad as they make out. All reviewers tend to exaggerate even the slightest differences because it would get very boring to read "they are very much similar in reality" every time. Generally always try to understand where the reviewer is coming from and any possible bias, (I'm NOT saying there is ANY bias in that particular article!).

    As an aside, many people have crap hearing, speaker systems, eyesight or any combination of the three. So for them even if there was a big difference in quality between HD formats many would never see or hear it. Many audiophiles get carried away with "perfect" sound reproduction but by the time they can afford the really good stuff their hearing is already degrading. Rambling again, sorry.......

    HD-DVD waiting for? Who knows, maybe a bus. They certainly don't have the best movie studio support.

    Sony have a lot to do with the releases coming out on their format at the moment. They are trying to make sure that they can showcase the very best aspects of a BluRay disc. Very naive if you think otherwise, (quick look on the net and you'll see many references to Sony and that particular release). Anyway it's the movie and its' coding that make the overall experience, BluRay is just the carrier not the data itself. VC-1 is more compact and will use less space than the MPEG4 currently in use on the BluRay discs and will therefore use less space. Not necessarily losing quality. BluRay may yet use VC-1 coding in the future so could cram even more features onto one disc.
    Try not to mistake the media with the medium, (NOT saying you did) but I would like to see the same movie on both formats made to the best of the respective camps ability to make a true comparison. For the films that are on both formats I'm not certain that they have been equally exploited to their maximum for good comparisons to be made directly. Early BluRay discs slightly over compensated for colour but who cares. Just turn down the colour on your TV set and it's sorted.

    My last comment was not meant to be personal, merely using F9zDark's remark to re-enforce his earlier posted view attacking the HD-DVD hinting at it as a choice for dumb people in effect, in reverse to balance out the equation a bit. Of course if you want Playstation 3 games and HD movies then of course PS3 is certainly NOT a dumb choice. If I ever buy a HD movie soon I'm sure it will be on BluRay format too, (more selection and I already have a player).

    This whole thread seemed to start by virtually attacking the HD-DVD format seemingly only because it's not in the PS3. This forum is most definitely the not the most unbiased in that respect and I just wanted to balance some of that probable bias.

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    In respect to the biases around here, its very difficult to be unbiased, when you have people who don't even own a PS3, bashing it to hell here in the PS3 forums.

    Now, don't get me wrong, anyone can post anywhere they wish, but its always the usual suspects, inciting flame wars over and over. Since those individuals hardly listen to reason, the only intelligent way to deal with them is to become just as unreasonable, and then its a matter of who's the last man standing.

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    Here's a useful link to help explain some of the "initial" problems with BluRay as against HD-DVD.

    http://reviews.cnet.com/5420-6449_7-...hreadID=220381

    Blu-Ray has improved as suggested it would in this article but it gives an insight into the background and still current issues.

    To me I guess that I wouldn't really notice any significant difference between formats when viewing, except maybe the menu speed. One day I'm sure I'll watch a optical disc recorded HD movie. So far all recorded onto my hard disc recorder from TV.

    Enjoy the read

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