BBFC rejects Manhunt 2

[Dickhead]

Well Iam from the UK and the policial correctness and regulations in our nation has become too much. I voted Tory not labour in the last Goverment election.

[Veskgar]

With freedom comes excess. The more freedom you have, the less safe you are from the general public.

That's a good point. In a truly free society, you won't be able to stop some of the whacko's out there because even whacko's will have rights. However, what people need to ask themselves is would they rather be less safe from the general public or less safe from their government?

See, in the United States, although you may be less safe from the public, especially in certain areas, you have the right to defend yourself, your property, and your family. With deadly force if need be. And free people prepared to not be victimized would be more of a deterrent to criminals than police. If only people would realize that it is a dangerous world we live in and stop being so complacent about safety.

With more government intervention, means more loss of privacy and the watering down of certain rights. That could easily lead to abuse and corruption by government officials. I'd rather be a little less safe from the public in my opinion. Censorship is not going to do much good. The more you say people can't have something, the more they want it.

I think this was a mistake to censor or not allow a Video Game. And the same thing better not happen in the United States.

[Uberman]

That's a good point. In a truly free society, you won't be able to stop some of the whacko's out there because even whacko's will have rights. However, what people need to ask themselves is would they rather be less safe from the general public or less safe from their government?

See, in the United States, although you may be less safe from the public, especially in certain areas, you have the right to defend yourself, your property, and your family. With deadly force if need be. And free people prepared to not be victimized would be more of a deterrent to criminals than police. If only people would realize that it is a dangerous world we live in and stop being so complacent about safety.

With more government intervention, means more loss of privacy and the watering down of certain rights. That could easily lead to abuse and corruption by government officials. I'd rather be a little less safe from the public in my opinion. Censorship is not going to do much good. The more you say people can't have something, the more they want it.

I think this was a mistake to censor or not allow a Video Game. And the same thing better not happen in the United States.

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

Unfortunately, collective intelligence has been on the decline in both countries since the Revolution.

[Dogmatic1]

Wow.... too bad they don't let britts have guns or they might be able to overthrow their nazi parlament. good thing you guys can move to the u.s.a. (as long as you dont mind a massive increase in crime rate!) ha!

Technically, we can own any gun we like... as long as we can justify it. Sadly, "I want a Glock 23, because it's a very efficient crime prevention product" isn't valid justification. Oh well

And no, short of a) marrying an American b) being some sort of genetic scientist c) being a millionaire, we can't legally live in the US (and quite ironically, after we have owned a gun [illegally], we can't stay there for any more than 90 days).

See, in the United States, although you may be less safe from the public, especially in certain areas, you have the right to defend yourself, your property, and your family. With deadly force if need be. And free people prepared to not be victimized would be more of a deterrent to criminals than police.

The idea in the states, as far as I understand it is "you're as safe as you make yourself". Primarily, you are responsible for your own safety, and you only become a victim if you allow yourself to be. Here in the UK, you're not allowed to take your own safety into your own hands, you must rely on the Police. This isn't just the idea of the current government, but one of the people; so the only way to remedy it is to break the law, and be looked down upon by your peers... but I think my safety is worth it.

$#@!head: Voting Tory isn't anything to be proud of either; they're just as guilty for the "nanny state" as Labour (they did introduce most of the stupid laws, and Labour have just decided they're not quite stupid enough).

[Accordion]

Well Iam from the UK and the policial correctness and regulations in our nation has become too much. I voted Tory not labour in the last Goverment election.

thats one of the most disturbing yet funny thing i have ever read in my life... people like you will be the ruin of this country.

and for those that don't know; the BBFC are very relaxed in their ratings and have just downgraded their rating system for games to a lower level compared to film.
which means this game must be awful.

[oooooomonkeys]

they cant tell us what we can and cant play? nothing should be able to be banned just given a rating of some sort. this is one of the crazyiest(sorry for the spelling) things i ve heard in my life. i agree with the nazi comment we live with a bunch of fascists and dictators who just do as they please cause they think it makes a better place for the general public as a whole, when we dont even get a choice ?

[watupgroupie]

Probably because Britian treated the World like crap back in the day.

Yes true but germany made a world war and i think most people have gotten over that because people change.

[devdj]

so will it not be $#@!in to Ireland after all

[mcdougall57]

See, in the United States, although you may be less safe from the public, especially in certain areas, you have the right to defend yourself, your property, and your family. With deadly force if need be. And free people prepared to not be victimized would be more of a deterrent to criminals than police. If only people would realize that it is a dangerous world we live in and stop being so complacent about safety.

i think id rather miss out on manhunt 2 or import it than have a robber dive through my window with a machine gun and be prepared to defend myself with a .45 magnum thats in my bedside cabinet

[Veskgar]

The idea in the states, as far as I understand it is "you're as safe as you make yourself". Primarily, you are responsible for your own safety, and you only become a victim if you allow yourself to be.

That is true to some extent in a lot of cases. However, I've seen surveillance video footage of 90+ year old elderly people being punched repeatedly so that some crackhead can take the $20.00 or so in the victims purse, wallet, etc. The victim certainly didn't "allow" that to happen. And that brings me to my main point. If more able bodied people showed better character and stood up against crime, those s$#@! of society would think twice.

Now we can't all become vigilante's but hopefully people will start becoming better aware of their surroundings and what's going on around them.

Back on topic, this game can't be much worse than a lot of the R rated movies playing in theaters or unrated DVD's hitting store shelves every week. And movies are mostly live-action. Video games are computer animation.

If this goes through without a fuss, what's next? Hopefully a lot of people will make their opposition to this decision heard.

i think id rather miss out on manhunt 2 or import it than have a robber dive through my window with a machine gun and be prepared to defend myself with a .45 magnum thats in my bedside cabinet

I hear you! LOL - But that mentality feeds the point that censors of violent media try to make. It sounds like you are saying that if Manhunt 2 is allowed to be purchased by most anybody, there will suddenly be a surge of machine gun wielding violent criminals diving through people's windows. I also don't want to minimize the role of the police as they are owed a lot of credit and respect. Well, most of them. And communities are undoubtedly safer when there is a good police presence that is active and involved in positive ways with the community. Its just that criminals know that most people will just call the police instead of doing anything themselves. And then it takes the police so many minutes to arrive on scene. So in some cases, the police being called might not act as the biggest deterrent.

But if a town or neighborhood starts getting a reputation of ordinary people watching out for each other and not tolerating crime, criminal elements, troublemakers, etc. will likely decide to operate elsewhere.