Is $ony even trying anymore?

[Anonymous D]

knowing rockstar they put it in in the first place lol as has been suggested with the lumines exploit

[Gold Line]

and yes sony are getting riped off because of psp isos but there making more cash from homebrew than loseing it

[mexicansnake]

they also make cash from nintendo most of my mates got a psp because they wanted to re-play all the great snes/nes games.

so theres dark-alex (+all other coders) who take months coding for the psp and sony makes all the cash from other peoples ward work.

and do you think hackers could beat sony? do you really think that? do you think sony forgot to block the gta lcs hack in 3.03? if you do your a dum ass sony wants homebrew on the psp and we all know it.

One playing nintendo roms without owning the real cadridge is piracy.

Hackers and $ony are on the same side, the problem here are the crackers. But if they were crackers indeed they can beat them and make them stop all the projects for the psp cuz they are not longer "bussiness" for $ony. Trust me they are losseing lots of money everyday look at some warez charts.

[mexicansnake]

and yes sony are getting riped off because of psp isos but there making more cash from homebrew than loseing it

They are loseing more money. You dont have a minimal idea of what is this psp piracy... (no offence)

[Gold Line]

i still think if sony wanted to block us they would. how can hackers get past sony every time?

[VampDude]

Sony should encourage homebrew like they did with the PS2 giving away a YA-BASIC program with launch day PS2's on the bundled Demo disk!

[Skull One]

As a software developer and as an adult with many many years under my belt, I would like to address some questions, statements and assumptions made so far.

1) As long as both keys and the encryption system are in the same memory space, at the same time, the system can be cracked. It is simply a matter of time and effort. This rule has been around since the 1960s and will continue till the day the human race ceases to exist.

2) $ony can't radically change the PSP firmware without fully testing every game already released. The cost to do that would be more than the money they would make in possible increased sales due to no piracy.

3) $ony has to fighting piracy to avoid anyone saying in court "They allowed it to happen for so long...."

4) Piracy is not a victimless crime. No matter how you spin it, theft is theft. Develope software for public use for at least 15 years before you dare to argue that it isn't.

5) Hardware sales are usually, Big N being the exception, done at a loss. The PSP is an example of that. So increased sales of PSPs due to piracy is not helping their bottom line in any way, shape or form.

6) If $ony wanted to support home brew for the PSP they would. The reason they don't is because they wouldn't be able to keep the wholes in the firmware hidden. Not that it really matters due to statement #1.

7) The software industry as a whole sees money as the only solution to their problems. So as long as their are people that will legally buy software at inflated prices, they will continue to operate as is. The only software industry to flurish with a free based model is Linux. And the jury is still out on how successful it has been.

If you plan to respond please do me a favor. Use a logical and defensible argument and a spell checker.

[mexicansnake]

As a software developer and as an adult with many many years under my belt, I would like to address some questions, statements and assumptions made so far.

1) As long as both keys and the encryption system are in the same memory space, at the same time, the system can be cracked. It is simply a matter of time and effort. This rule has been around since the 1960s and will continue till the day the human race ceases to exist.

2) $ony can't radically change the PSP firmware without fully testing every game already released. The cost to do that would be more than the money they would make in possible increased sales due to no piracy.

3) $ony has to fighting piracy to avoid anyone saying in court "They allowed it to happen for so long...."

4) Piracy is not a victimless crime. No matter how you spin it, theft is theft. Develope software for public use for at least 15 years before you dare to argue that it isn't.

5) Hardware sales are usually, Big N being the exception, done at a loss. The PSP is an example of that. So increased sales of PSPs due to piracy is not helping their bottom line in any way, shape or form.

6) If $ony wanted to support home brew for the PSP they would. The reason they don't is because they wouldn't be able to keep the wholes in the firmware hidden. Not that it really matters due to statement #1.

7) The software industry as a whole sees money as the only solution to their problems. So as long as their are people that will legally buy software at inflated prices, they will continue to operate as is. The only software industry to flurish with a free based model is Linux. And the jury is still out on how successful it has been.

If you plan to respond please do me a favor. Use a logical and defensible argument and a spell checker.

Man, we all have an opinion about this. Well I know that my grammar is not perfect but at least I´m trying, you grammar is not perfect look at your post.

But if you want to have a more complex debate we could do it it in spanish or use translators (for you)
and you will discover that my arguments are highly logical and defensible, adult like arguments.

Sony must stop piracy in order to avoid industry demands, the game developers like: Blizzard, Namco, Bandai... They can demand Sony because Sony is not being responsable to elimintate the current piracy in the PSP system.

Business are business they have to be faster, better and of course cheaper, constant improvement, they can´t allow something big such the piracy.

If you plan to response to my statements or my grammar then we should do it in another place because here is not the perfect place to start talking about "OUR" mistakes, I hope you can be the enough "adult" to do so.

[Skull One]

I chose, to use the $ony spelling to keep in tone with the previous posts. 1960s is the proper way to write it since I was not showing possession. "Many many" is an accepted form of using a double word emphasis without using a comma. Please don't try to teach me English or proper grammar. I have been writing short stories, technical articles, trade paper articles and military briefing papers probably since before you were born. I also happen to be Dyslexic. Which means I have to be extra careful when I write.

And if you wish to use a different language, please feel free. If I don't know the language, I will have an associate translate it for me. I have a great many assets at my disposal.

Sony does not need to meet any demands from its developers. It is the other way around. Rockstar's Manhunt 2 is the perfect example. Sony won't publish it until they fix it. That fact can not be argued with. Sony has been accused of making a harder system to developer for than the XBox 360 yet developer are still cranking out projects. Sony has the reigns and the developers are begging to have permission to develop for the platform.

Developers care about two things:

1) How much a project costs to make versus how many units can be sold.
2) How much they have to pay to have the rights to publish the title on a given platform.

Interview any developer to see how right I am.

A business has to be right first above anything else. There are three things you can offer when doing any job. Time, money and quality. Pick any two. Third will get hammered. After 25 years as professional programmer that statement has held up every time. You don't have to be cheaper if you can defend your costs with a good product. It is called market demand. You don't have to be faster it your product has the best quality and meets the user demands. And trying to be faster is usually the best way to sink a project before it ever gets off the ground.

I never once questioned your grammar or your ability to make an argument. My statement was a challenge to keep the discussion in context to the original question and to avoid the "j00 l0z3r" form of debate that is so often prevalent on a public forum.

[splodger15]

Ahh this goes back to the time when it was an argument on piracy on the PS3.

The main way to stop piracy would be if you dropped prices on games. I mean if I had a PS3 I would pirate games on it simply because I am not paying £50 or so for a game that I may not even like.

I wouldn't mind paying for PS3 games if they were lets say £20-£30 I would have no objection in paying but £50 thats taking it to another level