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    Sadly, Sony can't just lower the price. It would not do their profit margin any good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mexicansnake View Post
    Ohhh trust me they are a HUGE problem, just look at my city... The most part of the OE or other psp hacking stuff users buy pirated isos .

    The homebrew is not the problem... the problem is the piracy.
    wth people buy pirated isos for psp
    that takes it to another criminal level of distribution.

    and its not that sony is not trying its that they are busy with other things like the ps3 updates.

    this one guy at gizmondo actually makes sum sense.
    OldSchoolGadgetLover says:

    You know, I have some advice for all the PSP owners running home brew on their devices.

    Please just sell your damn unit to someone who doesn't mind buying games, and go out and get a relatively cheap GP2X (a Linux based emulator system) that lets you play about every ROM out there.

    It won't try to force you to stop playing stolen ROMs by forcing OS updates on you that disable your pirate hacks. Heck, it encourages and explains how to perform the hacks.

    The PSP is actually a pretty cool handheld gaming system, but only for those folks who do not mind buying new games. That's Sony's niche, I guess.

    Use the right tool for the right job gentlemen.

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    Who the **** buys pirated ISO's when you could get them for free. I have no obligation what so ever at buying PSP games as they seem to be at a good price but as soon as the price sky rockets then yeh most people will pirate just for the fact like everyone is doing it as they don't want to pay to high money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gold Line View Post
    why would sony want to block homeberw do you know how much cash there making from people like dark alex
    people only buy a psp for homebrew.
    Sony doesn't make money from PSPs... They make money from the games. Say, Sony makes a PSP with 400$~ and they sell it with 200$~. So that's why they fight homebrew/hacks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by splodger15 View Post
    The main way to stop piracy would be if you dropped prices on games. I mean if I had a PS3 I would pirate games on it simply because I am not paying £50 or so for a game that I may not even like.
    Then download the demo and/or read a review. If it is still too expensive, then get a second hand copy. Pirating a game to 'try before you buy' is a poor argument in this day and age.

    During the SNES and Megadrive days, we had to pay up to £50-60 for a new game which is a lot more expensive (given inflation) then what you are paying now for a 360/PS3 game.

    @Skull One: Finally, someone that is talking sense for this argument.

    @-Xandu-: Finally, someone understands.

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    Due to the Playstation 2 popularity here, gaming company Game Valley proudly sells PS2 games at 8$ or less.
    Of course they're pirated. And since every one buys pirated games are everywhere, original games have disappeared from the market completely!

    And also, since BluRay isn't available yet nor the PS3 is cracked, they sell 90$ imported PS3 games rather than 60, that's how piracy begins.

    @yaustar : Thanks .

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    Quote Originally Posted by splodger15 View Post
    Who the **** buys pirated ISO's when you could get them for free. I have no obligation what so ever at buying PSP games as they seem to be at a good price but as soon as the price sky rockets then yeh most people will pirate just for the fact like everyone is doing it as they don't want to pay to high money
    1- They are regular users.
    2- They dont have a fast internet connection.
    3- They dont know how to use that kind of stuff.
    4- They think that its faster.
    5- Its boring for them to wait ages to download something.
    6- They dont speak english (they cant surf the warez sites the most parts are in english).
    7- They are around 5-12 years old or people that dont know how to use computers.

    Ok Ill give you an example, because it seems that you cant get it...

    http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/...y-ericsson-_JM

    http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/...s-psp-chip-_JM

    http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/...isco-duro--_JM

    Do you need more examples?. Because THEY buy them.

    This one is interesting but its just windows vista :
    http://articulo.mercadolibre.com.mx/...-antivirus-_JM


    @ skull one read the last part of my previous post.
    Dont even try to be perfect, we all commit mistakes (me for example)
    and well... That part of dislexyc has nonsence. You dont have to tell us that
    because we already know that and there are mods that can watch out for that, we dont need babysitters. And
    you are not the only writer or programer around here...

    And of course in cases of piracy the first affected are the game developers because that is their job
    and Sony must face the piracy and attend his systems, the PSP on this case. Sony is a global
    corp. They care about of his industry, and avoid any big problem such piracy on his products.

    The business must be fast, if you are not fast someone else would win, How cant it be cheaper? in fact
    the piracy exists because the inflated costs, in theory the final product would not face
    piracy if it has quality and a rasonable price. The videogames are expensive... If you bring a high
    cost to a product one sector of the population will not be able to buy that product, and then it will not become
    a good business because just a small part will get it an remember that they also have the piracy in the other hand
    they are lossing time, money, and clients! all in one bad movement.

    If there is not demand the product will stop to be developed and then it will not exist in the current
    market. If you speak about quality it must be rasonable for the price, quality is good but it
    have to be adecuate at a rasonable price. A ferrari for example, it has a big quality but it is
    also expensive, and thats the reason why the most part of the popuation is not able to buy one.


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    mexicansnake

    So true

    But you're missing something, here in our country you know games are even more expensive (don't have any idea why) How come is that we have to get a PS3 for Us $1000 or if you get it cheaper is around Us $900 also the games are no under 90 bucks

    I got my psp for Us $360, value pack and the two most lame umds you´ve ever seen (smart bomb, Tron movie) this is just stupidly inflated price, since this was when value pack was around Us $250, I have no idea who keeps that $110 extra

    That's why a lot of people in here likes piracy, the ones that have money, they go to the US and buy the games at the price they sould be, but the ones that can´t afford that trip buy pirated games

    I've seen a lot of people give up their psps because they have no games, they don't want to pay ridiculus sums of money, and they prefer to sell their sistems

    and as you've said most regular users have no fast internet conexion or conexion at all, so how can they see a preview, a review, a demo, they go to some local pirate guy who sells them like 5 games for under 7 bucks (psp DVD)

    So things against piracy are going nowhere in here until prices are right

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    Quote Originally Posted by mexicansnake View Post
    piracy exists because the inflated costs, in theory the final product would not face
    piracy if it has quality and a rasonable price.
    Well you tooks the words right from my mouth.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaustar View Post
    Then download the demo and/or read a review.
    Just because a game has a rating of lets say 9.0 and I buy it and think its crap I would be pretty annoyed. Everyone has there own different tastes in games because a review says 9.0 you yourself would probaly rate it a 5.0.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaustar View Post
    .

    During the SNES and Megadrive days, we had to pay up to £50-60 for a new game which is a lot more expensive (given inflation)
    At that price I would pirate them with no care in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike_jmg View Post
    mexicansnake

    So true

    But you're missing something, here in our country you know games are even more expensive (don't have any idea why) How come is that we have to get a PS3 for Us $1000 or if you get it cheaper is around Us $900 also the games are no under 90 bucks

    I got my psp for Us $360, value pack and the two most lame umds you´ve ever seen (smart bomb, Tron movie) this is just stupidly inflated price, since this was when value pack was around Us $250, I have no idea who keeps that $110 extra

    That's why a lot of people in here likes piracy, the ones that have money, they go to the US and buy the games at the price they sould be, but the ones that can´t afford that trip buy pirated games

    I've seen a lot of people give up their psps because they have no games, they don't want to pay ridiculus sums of money, and they prefer to sell their sistems

    and as you've said most regular users have no fast internet conexion or conexion at all, so how can they see a preview, a review, a demo, they go to some local pirate guy who sells them like 5 games for under 7 bucks (psp DVD)

    So things against piracy are going nowhere in here until prices are right
    Good points also... Here in our contry the videogames are more expensive than there and I can prove it. In the USA a psp has a price of around $180USD here we have it at $3300 mexican pesos aprox: $300 USD, here is always the same, the original games are luxury, well they dont see a demo, they just hear about one game and then buy it, buy cheap magazines, see the tv and then they buy the pirate game. and 7 bucks for a pirated game? no way here they pay $10 to $20 mexican pesos $1USD to $2USD
    for 7 games aprox.

    And the PS3 at liverpool or El palacio de Hierro, game planet, mercadolibre (Good stores in Mexico) coasts: $10 500 mexican pesos and the games $1000 mexican pesos. Expensive I know .


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