Finished book

[Raach.16]

secondly the cover is the final fight obviously

Riddle was never the owner of the elder wand

obviously? not to our english versions im afraid, ours has the lestranges vault on the cover.

funny how riddle was never the owner, he didnt have to kill snape, as snape wasnt an owner either

[marsbarluvr]

having finished the last books is weird...like christmas is over and will never come again...

anyway...I realize there was a war going on but sometimes it felt like she only killed a bunch of characters for the sake of killing. how coincidental that Harry was close to all of the ordermembers who died. and surely he probably wouldn't react as badly if someone he didn't know died but still...

I feared Lupin would die, he really was my favourite character 'til the end even if his character changed a great deal in the last book. it was shocking at first but it's nice to see that he could be human too.
Also in a way I'm glad that he got to pass on to the next life the same way James and Sirius had and now *sniff* they can be *sob* together forever *cries uncontrollably*

I still don't quite understand how peter died. he was strangled by his own hand or something like that I believe but...why?

when dobby died that was sad to. I never realized how fond I was of him until then. strange, isnt't it? usually you have your faves and that's that...

and you know I feared a weasley was gonna die. it was bound to happen sooner or later, considering how many they were and how close they had been to lose a family member before. but one of the twins, that was just the saddest imaginable. and I'm so glad percy came back, I always liked him.

I'm so dissapointed when JK didn't write a squat about the veil. it's like sirius died for nothing in a way. why didn't he crawl out of it as harry had expected him to, and what was it doing there in the first place? I was sure there was more to it. but...clearly I was wrong.

Tonks pregnant? ohhh boy...:rofl: I thought for sure that was NOT gonna happen because it would be the worst timing to have a baby in the middle of all the chaos, but apparently SOMEBODY hasn't heard of protection...

I had hoped that the crucial thing we were to find out about Lily had been something more original rather than that she had two admirers, instead of one. she was great in every way, I get it. she must be the only character in the book that hasn't displayed any flaws whatsoever (except for ginny maybe, who has a tantrum every now and then but that's about it). and also, how did Snape get that missing piece of her letter to Sirius? And what was it doing in Sirius room, because it seemed as he had recieved it after moving out of there, unless somebody was sent to empty his place once he had been sent to azkaban and dumped all his stuff there. why not throw it away, though? no one expected him to get out of there anyway. Unless he took it with him to azkaban because he loved her too yeah that's probably it *sarcastic*

and one last thing. the 19 years later thing was just...:rofl: Honestly. sooo dissapointed harry married ginny. I knew they would end up together, but I always really hoped he'd fall for luna...but either way, I can't imagine how Jo could write that happily ever after part with a straight face. same goes for the scene when harry was kissed like never before and oh my god what a kiss that was making every other kiss jealous with it's kissiness...

IMO

Other than that, great book.:thumbup:

[Raach.16]

I still don't quite understand how peter died. he was strangled by his own hand or something like that I believe but...why?



how did Snape get that missing piece of her letter to Sirius? And what was it doing in Sirius room, because it seemed as he had recieved it after moving out of there, unless somebody was sent to empty his place once he had been sent to azkaban and dumped all his stuff there. why not throw it away, though? no one expected him to get out of there anyway.

i think becuase voldemort made his hand, and peter had started to show remorse, it just..strangeld him because of it?

and snape could get in the house because he knew where it was..so could take the letter

[Dobby]

JKR says that she changed the ending.
She gave one character a repraisal and two other main characters die instead.

Who do you think was that main character, and who do you think was supposed to live that ended up dieing?

[oops89]

i reckon its between fred tonks and lupin of who were not going to die! i think she intended on keeping one of the parents on teddy alive and i think she felt she had to kill a much loved character so lupin and fred would fill that!

but i think harry ron hermy or nevil were the the ones that got there chance to live... i was thinking harry but then shes had the ended planned since the begining anf that would have been a massive change so probibly one of the others? ginny prehaps? someone who harry was really close to i think and would have been hardest on him because he would have blamed himself... i dunno though could have been anyone?

i really thort that mcgonagall was gunna die because that would have been really sad ive always thort that she loved dumbledore i wish that there had been more between them!

[Dobby]

but i think harry ron hermy or nevil were the the ones that got there chance to live... i was thinking harry but then shes had the ended planned since the begining anf that would have been a massive change so probibly one of the others? ginny prehaps? someone who harry was really close to i think and would have been hardest on him because he would have blamed himself... i dunno though could have been anyone?

Just thought that I'd mention - But JKR has always said that the trio - Harry, Ron and Hermione are not included in this change.

So what it boils down to is who is classed as main characters.
Personally think that Hagrid was to die while Tonks and Fred were supposed to live.
I think Percys return was a bit cheesy, and his death would have had more of an impact - like it's never too late to say sorry.

[oops89]

yeah but then Percy would not have been able to show that he truly never lost his love for his family, cause she showed this by the fact he didnt want freds body to be destroyed or taken cause he wouldn't move away from it! i thort that hagrid was a goner when he disappeared with those spiders but i reckon that JK Rowling kept him because there wouldnt have been such an emotional thing when hargrid was carrying harrys body!

i think i would have been most upset if it was someone who had helpped harry a lot like nevil who was going to die? but then by killing nevil it would be like saying even if you are brave and go against the things people think about you it might not work and thats not a very good message (moral) to put across but i dunno could have been anyone really maybe she didn't change her mind at all perhaps she said that so people would discuss it and keep talking about her book? but i dunno? hmm...

[DJam]

I thought the ending was very weak. There are so many unanswered questions about a bunch of characters like: What happens to George and other weaslys, what kind of job do Harry, Ron etc. have, what happens with Tommy Lupin? Is he a werewolf? Who does he live with? What happens with the Dursley's? What about the teachers? etc. I really wanted to know what happened in the hours, days, months and maybe the first couple of years after the defeat of Voldy. Besides that the epilogue was sooo corny, with nameing the kids after the dead people, not to mention confusing as hell...

I was also positive that either Harry or Neville would kill Belatrix(spelling?) and I figured that since Harry was going to kill Voldy, that pleasure would be Neville's. It was set up so perfectly for him to avenge his family, but NOOO it has to be Molly wtf! That was really random.

Then there's the matter of all those deaths. They were pretty bad and uniformative: Fred gets killed by a rock, Hedwig gets smooshed, Moody cursed/ falls, Lupin and Tonks... How did they die?!!! Snape killed by the snake- Was there a hidden meaning in that or something? Like someone wrote earlier these seemed like deaths for the sake of it with no real purpose. There was no need for Tonks to leave her baby and come to fight, I mean come ON, that was clearly just a quick little tie in to have Tonks killed. That leaves another orphan of members of the order...

It was also quite confuseing when Harry didn't die... again... when he was cursed by Voldy. I got the feeling it was because he had a piece of Voldy's soul in him and that's what the killing curse killed, but a lot of ppl are saying other things like 'the wand was really Harry's so it didn't want to kill him'

What was the whole point of thing with the Goblin, JK already said she probably wasn't going to continue the series, so why add another element with Goblins being angry at wizards? There was no need to make the goblin want the sword in the first place. All it lead to was Ron learning to speak parsel (even though he was mimicing what Harry said it was a messy tie in) and to Nevelle pulling the sword from the hat (the hat was also a messy tie in. Voldy could have just killed him)

There is also the thing with the uber wand being his because it was Malfoy's and Harry took Malfoy's other wand. That was a really big stretch (yet another messy tie in). Now about the Wand, as many have already said, the wielder of it is supposed to be unbeatable in a duel, so how did Albus win it? You could answer that by saying that the guy he defeated had stolen the wand so it wasn't really his, but then that leads to a whole nother set of problems (it woundn't really have been DD's, then in turn Malfoy's and Harry's). You could counter that argument thought by saying this: Didn't Harry technically steal the wand from Malfoy? Once again I am very confused.

Other than these problems I had with the book, and the rollercoster pace, I actually thought it was a good book, and right now I'm going to stop writing and cry in a corner because... sniff... Harry Potter's done...sniff.

Comments ppl!!!!!

[Itsme0850]

Rearrange S-E-V-E-R-U-S S-N-A-P-E and you spell.....

PURSUES EVANS

Thats really cool! I wonder if J.K had done that intentionally

[k188]

Ok
The elder wand belonged to Dumbledore because he defeated Grindewald, in the ending of the sixth book, when Dumbledore was very weak because he drank the posion, to get the horcrux, he wanted snape to kill him, as explained in the book, and the power of the elder won would therefore be broken. (because snape didn't actually defeat dumbledore, but only acted on his orders) As far as I remember Draco cast the expilliarmus spell at dumbledore, and did therefore without knowing it become the master of the elder wand. Harry defeated draco, hence he became the master of it. That was why Harry did not die in the forest, and in the great hall. In the forest Voldemort did not kill Harry, but the seventh horcrux placed within him.

Regarding Neville pulling the sword out of the sorting hat, I think that was to prove how brave and how true a Gryffindor Neville had finally become.

I thought the ending was a bit messy too, personally I would have preferred to read more about the time after the battle, for my sake she could have written another hundred pages about the whole reestablishment of the wizarding society, and how everyone was getting along afterwards, the reaction from the world and so on..

Otherwise a really really good book as always